• MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Biden didn’t lose the debate. Trump’s the guy who audibly shat his pants live in front of the entire nation. Dementia Donald is no match for Hardy Harris.

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      3 months ago

      Biden lost the debate by all accounts. His performance was so bad he literally had to exit the race. You’re not going to win by living in la la land.

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        3 months ago

        Trump didn’t even answer the questions. The reason Biden exited the race and Trump didn’t, is that Biden is a humble man who values the younger generation, and he had a high standard for himself that he didn’t meet. Meanwhile Sleepy Don poops his pants on camera and the GOP doesn’t care. They’re fine running a frail old man who’d drop dead a year into his presidency if he won. Tapioca Trump lost, it just didn’t matter because nobody expected him to be coherent.

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              3 months ago

              I think Pakman’s got some descent opinions. He was one of the more honest personalities about how bad Biden’s debate performance was.

              This video though does nothing to help Democrats. People aren’t going to be less likely to vote for someone cause they possibly farted. It only makes Democrats look bad when they resort to these types of antics.

              Biden has seriously hurt the Democrat ticket by staying in as long as he did. He didn’t want to drop out. He didn’t listen until 40 congressional representatives came out against him and said he needs to drop out because he was hurting their campaigns and polling so poorly.

              His team lied to the American people about his condition. Then he made poor excuses and his team was caught leaking post-debate questions to try to prop him up.

              I’m grateful he dropped out, but I’m not going to pretend he did this for the right reasons. He did this because he was forced to.

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                  3 months ago

                  The reason Biden exited the race and Trump didn’t, is that Biden is a humble man who values the younger generation, and he had a high standard for himself that he didn’t meet

                  Then stop praising him like he valued the younger generation when he ran a second term & got Democrats into this predicament. He put a dirty stain on the party that may still cost Democrats the elections.

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        3 months ago

        Yes because word stumbling is the ultimate in incompetence. Lying extensively about everything with zero substance whatsoever, that’s a true mark of a leader and master debater

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          3 months ago

          While I agree with you with how it should be, the reality is who conducted themselves better. Notably lying should be a huge liability because the other party can tear apart the lies. However Biden barely did so (a little bit, but mostly let things slide). So absent of context, people saw one man stringing together coherent points that, if you didn’t know any better, sounded plausible while the other failed to call him on any of it, while also struggling to put together basic responses.

          Usually Biden mistakes are mere ‘word stumblings’ but that night was really particularly off.

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            3 months ago

            Right I agree that many people are so stupid/ignorant that they will interpret that debate that way. But the truth still matters. That one candidate was trying to be a decent human being and the other was trying his best to be gutter sludge. The very opposite of everything that is moral and decent. It’s really disheartening that this truth doesn’t even matter anymore. The fact that even some of my own family falls for this crap has been extremely illuminating and depressing. The world has been a whole lot grayer since I realized in 2015 that Trump actually had a chance at winning. And it’s only gotten worse since. There’s literally nothing the slime ball could do to lose support. We are witnessing the death of thought. All four of my (late) grandparents were lifelong Republicans but I think at least two of them would’ve opposed him very strongly. I’m not sure what it is, but it really does seem like the more information that is easily available, the more people reject reliable information.

            Sorry for the rant it’s just… Awful. And this particular point we are discussing here is at the heart of it all. If people just cared about truth a little more, there never would have been a president trump. We would not be worrying about this now. We’d be opposing some regular level asshole like mitt Romney. But no, we have to slog through a world where the shittiest person you can imagine gets rewarded for being that shitty. I’m sick of it.