The US secretary of state insists Venezuelans' votes in the recent presidential election "must count".

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His intervention comes as the presidents of Brazil, Mexico and Colombia all called on Venezuela to release the full details of last Sunday’s election.

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It has also attracted global criticism, with many governments around the world demanding the Venezuelan government release proof of the result.

The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.

But, the US, European Union and other G7 countries have called on Mr Maduro’s government to release detailed voting data.

  • DancingBear@midwest.socialEnglish
    6050·
    5 months ago

    We also have overwhelming evidence Blinken has supported multiple coup attempts in Venezuela throughout his career.

    Downvote actual facts if you like, you’re only showing your bias.

      • DancingBear@midwest.socialEnglish
        3245·
        5 months ago

        Absolutely, but if you were really interested in facts this information is not hard to find once you stop watching cable news……

        I doubt you’ll read any of it but here is a random google search….

        Details of a dozen or so coup attempts by us government

        https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv2tr51zb

        Details of Blinken’s work history in the us government over this same period

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Blinken#:~:text=He previously served as deputy,Biden from 2009 to 2013.&text=Yonkers%2C New York%2C U.S.

        Bias report on the jstor.org showing reporting credibility as factual and also detailing any of their bias etc

        https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jstore-daily/

        If you believe western media and United States governments reporting on issues in Venezuela, you’re critical thinking ability is non existent.

        I’m not an expert on Venezuela, but again, western media and the USA government has zero credibility on issues concerning Venezuela.

        • enbyecho@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5315·
          5 months ago

          Absolutely, but if you were really interested in facts this information is not hard to find once you stop watching cable news…… I doubt you’ll read any of it but here is a random google search….

          Your snark, arrogance and cynicism are unwarranted and inappropriate.

          But I do appreciate your providing some info - I was genuinely curious and didn’t quite know where to find this evidence - initial searches did not turn up the kind of “overwhelming evidence” you claimed existed. I’m not for a second disputing the USA’s involvement in coup attempts or regime change in general - I think this is quite adequately documented. But your claim was that there is “…overwhelming evidence Blinken has supported multiple coup attempts” but the best you can do is to essentially say he’s guilty of this personally because he has worked for the US government.

          That’s honestly pretty weak.

          • DancingBear@midwest.socialEnglish
            1365·
            5 months ago

            lol. You’re saying that without irony.

            That’s not me being arrogant, I nailed it, I just did a slam dunk in your face after I alley-ooped my own pass.

            And when your audience has zero critical thinking skills it’s probably the most appropriate time for cynicism.

            Yes, I hate to break it to you but folks working for the leadership in the state department and national security of the us government are complicit in US backed coup attempts.

            But your attempt to straw man my evidence is a sorry attempt to deflect from the actual fact that the United States and western media completely fabricate most everything anytime they open their lips to speak on issues concerning Venezuela.

            • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
              7·
              5 months ago

              That’s not me being arrogant, I nailed it, just did a slam dunk in your face after alley-ooped my own pass.

              Not only arrogant, but cringe.

              Sad to see “useful” idiots like you who probably don’t even know where Venezuela is, but as long as they are against the US they have to be good, right?

        • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
          248·
          5 months ago

          If you believe every protest is a CIA backed coup attempt then nobody can help you.

      • DancingBear@midwest.socialEnglish
        2238·
        5 months ago

        lol. You’re arguing that Blinken trying to overthrow the Venezuelan government in the past is a whataboutism to any discussion of Blinken trying to do it again, right now even?

        It would be laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic

        Y’all cable news watchers use Orwellian talking points without a lick of irony. Wow

        • stellargmite@lemmy.worldEnglish
          112·
          5 months ago

          I don’t have any skin in this game, but what are the Orwellian talking points you refer to? I’m curious how this term is used and develops over time.

          • DancingBear@midwest.socialEnglish
            813·
            5 months ago

            You’re suggesting the opposite of a thing is the thing, in this case it is Blinken having supported multiple coup attempts in Venezuela being a non relevant talking point to him currently supporting a coup in Venezuela

            I would say “currently supporting another coup he supported last election” but nah, we’ve already established this is somewhere between his support of coups in Venezuela 12-15 times

            Thanks for asking

            Edit; it wasn’t you it was the other guy who was using the Orwellian double speak or whatever

            He suggested that me mentioning blinkers previous support of coups in Venezuela during a discussion about blinkens support a a current coup attempt in Venezuela is a whataboutism or what not

            • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              5 months ago

              If somebody losses the election and still rules, that person/party are there ones who made a coup. Opposing this statement can only mean you support any and all dictators as long as they role play as a democracy once every few years.

      • DancingBear@midwest.socialEnglish
        817·
        5 months ago

        You have this idea in your head that because you fully believe your news sources, that I am somehow in opposition to whatever your ideology on this issue is.

        My goal is to point out that nothing western media or the US government has said or is saying is reliable on issues specifically concerning Venezuela, for at (the very) least the past three decades.

        “I’m giving you a choice: either put on these glasses or start eatin’ that trash can.” ——-Nada, from the movie They Live.

        • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
          74·
          5 months ago

          Oh my what an amusing and original observation, one never before uttered in the history of the internet.

          You waste your gifted prose on us my good person, please go find a country to be the Poet Laureate for, I am sure there are several waiting on your reply.