A few months ago, there was a post on the antifeminist sub. The post was a screenshot from an incel website that was posted on the Nothowgirlswork sub. There was a comment from nothowgirlswork which roasted the incel post.

The incel said he felt anxiety when he walked on the streets and saw women. The comment from nothowgirlswork was ridiculing him for feeling fear of women. He didn’t say anything misogynistic. There are some incels (on incel websites) who condone horrible things like raping women. This post was not like that.

It made me think that society expects men to be fearless and brave. Men are human and fear is a normal emotion that everyone has. It’s normal to feel anxiety around women, if the man has been traumatized in the past. Maybe the incel was traumatized by a woman in the past. People shouldn’t judge someone without knowing them.

The truth is women can be just as dangerous as men. Society has to stop thinking women are not as dangerous.

If a woman said she felt anxiety around men, redditors would be supporting her. They would say men are rapists and she should be scared of them. She would get all the empathy and sympathy. Reddit shows what people think secretly. Many people in society have this double standard too.

      • a-man-from-earth@kbin.social
        11·
        1 year ago

        It’s a valid question. And if you insist on using terminology that is often used in a misandrist way, you better explain exactly how you view it, what your definition of it is, and what, if any, evidence there is for its existence.

        Attempts at gaslighting us into accepting misandry are not welcome here.

      • hotpotato138@kbin.socialOP
        8·
        1 year ago

        You’ve seen the evidence, you just reject it.

        A few men being billionaires doesn’t mean patriarchy exists like the way feminists have defined it.

        • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          The vast majority of billionaires being men is very different from “a few men being billionaires”.

          Substitute billionaires with CEOs, politicians, etc

          The patriarchy is being dismantled (thank Christ) but it’s still around. Especially among older generations.

          And there’s a kind of neo-patriarchy being set up by Trump, Bolsonaro, etc and their followers. Abortion access in the US is a huge one.

          And of course that’s not even mentioning open patriarchal societies like the Middle East.

          • a-man-from-earth@kbin.social
            8·
            1 year ago

            You still haven’t given us the definition you’re using.

            Here’s one, from the AskFeminists subreddit:

            The Patriarchy is a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.

            It’s easy to see that the last part is simply not true. Ergo, we don’t live in a patriarchy.

            • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
              1·
              1 year ago

              It’s easy to see that the last part is simply not true.

              What??

              I mean, there’s some nuance, but “the vast majority of CEOs are men” kinda implies “women are largely excluded from it”. It’s a very simple conclusion. I can get discussing the nuance but to say “simply not true”? What in the redpill?

              • Halafax@kbin.social
                4·
                1 year ago

                Ah, there it is. If women don’t take a role, feminists insist it is because they are excluded.

                  • Halafax@kbin.social
                    5·
                    1 year ago

                    This is fun. Feminists think women can do anything except have agency. Because you can’t admit that women might have different preferences or abilities from men, every situation where women don’t participate at equal levels to men “must be the result of misogyny”.

                    I’m an egalitarian, the open misandry of feminism never ceases to be horrifying.