Joyless Lindsey Graham: Democrats’ Joy ‘Doesn’t Exist in Real World’
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The Republican senator made the comments in response to the DNC “love fest” during an appearance on CNN's “State of the Union.”

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19046110

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said he isn’t buying all that Democratic “joy” on display at this past week’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago during a Sunday appearance with Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union.

During their conversation, Tapper brought up the “disciplined” and “well-produced” DNC this week that, as the journalist put it, “conveyed patriotism and unity.” Graham didn’t see it that way.

“Well, I didn’t see what you saw,” Graham told Tapper with a laugh. “If you’re a Republican, you saw a hate fest. You saw a hate fest full of insults.”

“Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

To bolster his claim, Graham pointed to the gas prices, the state of the border, and inflation during Donald Trump’s presidency when “the world was not on fire.”

He’s either lying or what he said gives us a look into his shitty perspective of the world. Either way such a miserable and pathetic existence.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
    720·
    4 months ago

    My comment is a critique of centrism.

    Kamala is a centrist. Biden is a centrist. But, that moniker’s only a thing because Democratic voters don’t want to have to call themselves conservatives.

    • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
      121·
      4 months ago

      I want roe v Wade and then some. It’s for topics like that that I vote democrat, as it’s the currently available, most progressive option (centrist as it is). Gimme an option like Bernie, AoC or full power walz and I’d vote for that. More progressive the better, but it’s got to be viable. Right now that means wearing the democratic hat.

      If things like roe are centrist, call me whatever you want.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
        214·
        4 months ago

        If Roe’s your issue, I’d be even less inclined to vote Democrat.

        All they did was promise to do something about it, raise money, and then did absolutely nothing. (And if you’re curious, the cost of your bodily autonomy was $80,000,000.) Meanwhile Idaho has gotten away with criminalizing it and every other conservative state will follow.

        And considering they had Congress and the presidency, their inaction is indefensible.

        • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
          91·
          4 months ago

          Separately replying to unmarked edit: they did not have a supermajority, do not control state politics, and the judges bringing these things about are on lifetime appointments, seated during trump

          • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
            25·
            4 months ago

            The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act and the ACA were both passed without a supermajority.

            You don’t need a supermajority to pass legislation.

            Further, we should expect federal legislators to do things that are difficult. I’ve had it with broken promises and false excuses.

            • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
              61·
              4 months ago

              You practically do to remove federal judges, which, to the discussed topic, is necessary. Even more so to remove supreme court justices

              • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
                26·
                4 months ago

                You know what?

                You’re right.

                I’ve changed my mind. Making change is simply too hard. I should expect less.

        • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
          71·
          4 months ago

          I’m not single issue because I’m not a silly goose, that was just an example.

          All I know is Republicans would pour concrete on the currently shallow grave of roe.

          Democrats aren’t getting an A+ from me but as I said their the closest in the direction the country needs to go.

          If you review WHY conservative states have been able to do that you’d understand what happened.

          It’s because judges were put in place during republican majorities, and they obviously rule in favor of those republican policies.

          More republicans mean more republican judges means more concrete on republican ideals.

          Democrats have failed on a lot, but that failure represents effort. Imperfect, flawed effort, but the alternative is whole hearted enjoyment in destroying the things I’m interested in. Like roe for example.

          Edit

          Reminder there are only 2 viable options.

          One tries to bring forward bluer, lefter policy (relatively, not absolutely) and one seeks to being forward a Christian fascist ethnostate.

          And you’re telling me NOT to vote for the imperfect team blue?

          • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
            26·
            4 months ago

            Democrats have failed on a lot, but that failure represents effort

            I disagree. It denotes broken promises and zero effort, which is why I feel compelled to remind everyone of how crummy a president Joe Biden was, and particularly for women. Kamala doesn’t even have a platform on her website. All she wants to do is repeat memes (“Joy” and “Weird”), which doesn’t help anyone.

            They’ve made hundreds of billions we don’t actually have appear out of thin air overnight for other countries’ wars, but if you want a living wage or bodily autonomy it means absolutely nothing to them beyond their ability to fundraise off of promising to act.

            Silly Goose

            I appreciate that I’m not the only one who uses this term, though. :)

            • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
              31·
              4 months ago

              I acknowledge what broken promises look like. I contend most of them are just failures
 In battle. There’s no indication the promises were made in bad faith, but heads up, politics is an uncontrolled system. In many cases good intentions lead to loss. All the more reason to clear the path.

              I don’t excuse it, I understand it.

              • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
                14·
                4 months ago

                There’s no indication the promises were made in bad faith

                I’d argue forty years of regression in both social and economic liberty across multiple Democratic supermajorities is evidence to the contrary.

                • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
                  5·
                  4 months ago

                  Sorry don’t want to go ring around the Rosie with you. Much of the worst happening is thanks to judge appointments made by trump. That’s my final view of it. I acknowledge yours.

                  Lastly I return to my other core point:

                  I have 2 viable options:

                  1. Team blue: Fucked up a lot and has a lot to prove, but at least attempts blue topics in theory.
                  2. Team red: fucking stoked with the changes you mentioned, locked and loaded for more.

                  And you tell me not to take team blue in this specific constrained system with only 2 outcomes?

                  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    14·
                    4 months ago

                    That’s okay.

                    I understand where you’re coming from. It’s just that history demonstrates that your hypotheses are wrong.

                    Democrats say they’ll act differently, but in the end, you get the same conservative outcomes, especially on Roe.

                    For my part, the joyful speeches matter little when I can look at their record and know that I’m getting fascism regardless.