Dude just loves riling himself up into a frenzy, doesn’t he? I guess he was mad that Hasan was going to interview Obama, which never even happened, and now he thinks Hasan is a “genocide supporter” because a random YouTube clip he came across that said “Hasan supports Kamala’s policies”, which he never even watched and was most likely just clipped. Hasan isn’t perfect, but fuck, you think at least him going to the DNC as a journalist would be considered fair from BE. Wild.

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    Or maybe you meant Hasan is following in AOC’s footsteps in some other way?

    As I said, he spends some time critiquing Democratic policies but is also still trying to stay acceptable to the Democratic party overall, since that’s who his audience is. Eventually he will get co-opted just like AOC did.

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      Hasan can’t have it both ways where he’s an “outsider” that gets kicked out of the Convention for saying some stuff on stream that made the DNC or Donors angry, but then also had spent all that time trying to get into the Convention in the first place so he could stream from the Convention and attract as many Democratic party hogs who wanted to watch the convention via Twitch.

      What is wrong with advocating for Palestinian emancipation with other protestors outside the DNC, inside the DNC, and with the Uncommitted movement outside the DNC, and then getting kicked out for it?

      The statement is pretty vague, do you have a specific example of something Hasan did or said at or outside of the DNC that you take issue with?

      • don’t bother their analysis is purely vibes based and completely uninformed. theres a huge difference between AOC stanning for kid killer kamala and Hasan literally trying to infiltrate the DNC to provide a single pro-palestinian voice on the inside, and getting kicked out for interviewing the excluded protestors and uncommmitted movement. literally just watch a single stream or video of his, he is CONSTANTLY criticizing democrats, more often than republicans. its not just some kind of ‘’‘triangulation’‘’ thing, hasan is literally doing what a journalist is supposed to do in this situation, bringing the pro palestine anti genocide message to people who would otherwise not have heard it. idk what idiot footfaults got this opinion from because it sure as shit didn’t come from actually watching hasan.

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            he explicitly says all the time that he is overly nice to people on camera even when he disagrees with them so that he can hopefully deprogram their followers. its like you don’t understand the concept of media or propaganda, or are being intentionally obtuse.

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              also, i think there’s a fundamental disconnect from Hasan and his fans who see the DNC libs as annoying and misinformed but fundamentally OK people.

              I, and other hardline communists, see the US as a fourth reich and the DNC as little Nazi genocidal fucks. When I see someone who is supposed to be “on my side” cozying up with them and hugging them, I don’t think “wow so glad he is de-radicalizing those fascists” I think “what the fuck is this rich shithead doing? Is he a traitor to our cause like all the other people who schmooze up to the nazis have been historically”

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                  have they? they’ve made half the people on a supposedly “leftist” forum defend statements like “he’s on the fence about Kamala and waiting until she changes her mind on genocide to endorse her”

                  Like imagine saying something that stupid with a straight face. Never would have happened before Hasan

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          I don’t take issue with him because he’s constantly attacking the dems, raising money for Palestine, was a guest on the Deprogram, and straight up said in a recent stream that “the revolution won’t be voted in”.

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              What? lol

              I’m not even a rabid follower of his stuff and like I said in the OP, dude’s not perfect, but he isn’t nearly as bad as people talk about.

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                nobody is perfect, this isn’t a morality test. That’s not what’s being discussed.

                He’s fundamentally harmful to marxism, just like almost all the other streamers are, because he spreads normalizing ideas about genocidal freaks like Democrats

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        What is wrong with advocating for Palestinian emancipation with other protestors outside the DNC, inside the DNC, and with the Uncommitted movement outside the DNC, and then getting kicked out for it?

        I didn’t say that was wrong. You are deliberately twisting what I said.

        What I was trying to highlight is that you can’t hold that position, but then also try and be friendly with the Democratic Party enough that they give you a press pass (he claims they gave it to him by accident?!?). Like you have to acknowledge that can have a chilling effect on speech. Giving him access, there’s a strong temptation to self-censor in order to not upset the Convention organizers. They eventually they kicked him out over the slightest of criticism anyway.

        So in the end, what serves the cause more? Trying to be on “good behavior” so you don’t get kicked out (and get kicked out anyway)? Or being on the outside and demonstrating and not self censoring?