Why are people arguing sentience and not the fact that this is another attempt to completely remove a sector of the workforce the way Covid was the conduit to remove a complete sector of the outside world? This shit is valued at nearly 200 billion dollars

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    I think you may have the wrong hexbear. Most discussions about llms here are how much they suck and or the awful problems they’re going to cause when"ai" code turns out to have non-human readable bugs that no one can figure out.

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      I’ve had recent unsolicited and undesired “the treat printers are already approaching human sapience and are only getting better, just build a larger database bro why are you emotional and afraid bro” exchanges with not-naming-names here recently. They may even show up in this thread soon.

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          I wouldn’t mind that bazinga proselytizing as much if it was just lemmyverse techbros or brave new alt accounts, but when it comes from old and established Hexbear posters… saddens me to see someone that claims to be ostensibly leftist but has a big glaring blind spot that buys into this particular capitalist bullshit for whatever reason. marx-doomer

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        They may even show up in this thread soon.

        I’m right here bro, you can’t tell me my LLM isn’t sentient when the evidence is clearly there

        sentient-ai

        (Although it’s an interesting tangent that we’re actually talking about machine sapience - the experiential and emotional dimensions of sensation is just taken for granted as something that comes with human intelligence, even though our wetware is similar to all the other animals)

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          There are a few much, much worse waifu-seekers out there that mostly focus on insulting biological intelligence (or naysayers in general because they have decades of scifi cliches to fall back on to call people “afraid” and “emotional”) because it’s a shortcut to making the treat printers sound closer to ascendance. You didn’t do that at least, so hooray.

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          the experiential and emotional dimensions of sensation is just taken for granted as something that comes with human intelligence, even though our wetware is similar to all the other animals)

          We just had a micro-struggle session about whether trees think and I declared that consciousness is a decision made by an observer rather than a quality of the subject, thus FINALLY shutting the book on that fucking argument for all time in all possible futures.

          (trees do think they just think real slow).

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      dude when AI art entered public awareness, there were exhausting struggle sessions on this for months, people saying over and over again “but I suffer from anphatasia! it helps me!”, no matter how many times you told them these models are trained on stolen work. I got called very nasty things on here no matter how detailed my replies were. Fuck, It got so bad that one of the largest private trackers for CG content literally banned sharing AI tuts and softs because people shitted up the listings lmao. It was fine when LLMs were relatively niche back in 2020/2021, but the AI boom made it insufferable.

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        Yea, the AI backlash is a very recent phenomenon here. This site is not beating the tech bro, tech gal, and tech enby allegations.

        Another favorite pro AI retort was materialism cannot oppose technological progress as if boiling every lake on the planet for fancy auto complete was a requirement for technological progress.

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        I would like to reiterate, then, that per Marx the official party line on AI is “Thou shalt not make a machine in the image of a human mind”

        We do not have a :bigworm: emoji.