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  • notceps [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Scope and effectiveness I guess.

    For example the big russian psyop that led to Trump getting elected turned out to be around 100k monthly in facebook ads this sounds like much but is not that manpower intensive and also like really cheap, this is of course assuming that this is what led to Trump winning which I somewhat doubt. This is the one big win but I’m sure there’s a lot of others.

    This is contrasted with US psyops, the National Endowment for Democracy gets a grant of around 130 millions per year. this one little arm of the US government has probably fifty times more money available than all of the russian psyops combined. So US psyops are much better funded and they are just more effective historically, the amount of CIA coups and psyops that the CIA themselves say they’ve done dwarf any other country.

    This isn’t even getting into what the effects actually are US psyops are often responsible for fascist coups or heightening ethnic tensions between groups to destabilize a country leading to horrible ethnic conflicts and this isn’t limited to just a psyops they’ll arm turkish fascist that do violence against kurds and back home there’ll be concern but no condemnation of decades.

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      I saw a RadioFreeEurope article the other day called Bandera “Controversial” and using phrasing like “being accused of pogroms”.

      RFE, being a literal arm of the US federal governemt with millions in funding to put out history-erasing articles just like that daily.

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          List away, I’ll get to them. :-)

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            If I start listing everything I’ll become more and more like a Charlie from IASIP so before this all starts. I’d recommend Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky that goes over the US media and its analysis on how US propaganda works. It is much better than going down the rabbit hole I’m about to go down.

            So the most obvious to point out is the U.S. Agency for Global Media with a yearly budget of 810 millions and they have several outlets like Radio Free Europe, Voice of America, Radio Free Asia and more the CEO of the USAGM is always appointed by the President of the United States and you can probably guess that they very pro-USA. This is the most obvious most out there ongoing US psyop but wait there’s more.

            A ton of Hollywood movies, TV series and even video games all have a very interesting relationship with the US government, you might already know this but never hurts to write this again the various US armies will happily rent out ships, jets, helicopters etc. to bigger productions in return for being able to approve their scrips and they’ve requested changes to the script before so the US army has and is currently influencing movies and the CIA likes to ‘be an advisor on shows’ for example Jack Ryan where around the same time the whole Juan Guaidó thing went down their series was about how brutal Venezuela is and how CIA agent Jack Ryan helps bring democracy to that country and how it’s very cool and good. They’ve also done this with several video games, I think you’ll allow this small indulgence when I say that for example the latest Call of Duty seems to have been influenced by the US army because they show the infamous ‘Highway of Death’ but instead of correctly attributing it to the US it is attributed to the Russians so basically historical revisionism.

            Don’t wait now if you keep reading I’ll throw in this next part we have government institutions that are funded to get pro-US parties elected so here the big one is of course the National Endowment for Democracy, underneath it you have several smaller groups like the National Democratic Institute that after the death of Hugo Chávez funded the opposition parties and the International Republican Institute which was responsible for what went down in 2004 in Haiti. and the NED has been accused so far by the Chinese Government to be responsible for the protests in Hong Kong.

            I’ll go off a small tangent because things are going to get tangled here the other one that is quite insidious is USAID, they have a budget of around 27.2bn USD obviously giving disaster relief is good but USAID has also been used as both a stabilizing force, if they want to keep a certain US aligned president in power, and as a destabilizing force if the population votes wrong. A good example would be Peru with its President Fujimori, a huge piece of shit by the way, who was favored by the CIA because he was an anti-communist and fascist, after he got in USAID gave a lot of disaster relief towards Peru which helped him stabilize his regime, USAID also did forced sterilizations for good old boy Fuji. One the other hand when Yemen voted in the UN against the USA using force against Iraq in 1990 they’ve lost all all from the USA within days, Yemen is one of the poorest nation in the world and this of course sent a message. So this is more in the whole ‘bribery’ category but USAID has certainly been used by the US government to get US friendly guys into government and keep those dang commies out which is why a lot of south american countries have basically expelled them.

            Ok I said more and more conspiracy theories and now we get to the Deus Ex part so yeah lets go. The US government is also funding dozens of think tanks that influence politicians all around the world, I’m getting a bit eepy so I’ll blitz through this, ‘think tanks’ like the Atlantic Council are funded by the US government and they are basically lobbying all the time and trying to get politicians that agree with their worldview in higher positions of power. A good current example would be the German Marshall Fund a US funded think tank with around 40mil yearly budget, one of their ‘promoted politicians’ is the current foreign minister Anna Baerbock.

            I feel like this is way too much and that I’ve been writing for too long about stuff that would be much better to read about so yeah.

            Edit: Also this is all done while functionally being a puddle in my 29C appartment so.

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              Great, thanks! I’ve been reading Chomsky for years, but not every book.

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              I’d recommend Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky that goes over the US media and its analysis on how US propaganda works. It is much better than going down the rabbit hole I’m about to go down.

              and Inventing Reality by Michael Parenti

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      Additionally, in just 2021, the Senate dropped another cool half a billion on """countering Chinese and Russian influence"""

      Their 'paid propaganda', our 'briefing'

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        Michael Parenti’s To Kill a Nation is about this process as it was used committed in Yugoslavia.

        Essentially, Yugoslavia remained communist instead of surrendering to capitalism like it was “supposed” to, like the USSR and the rest of the Eastern block had. So the CIA began an intense propaganda campaign to turn the different nationalities living within the state against each other. The result was a horrific war, with ethnic cleansings committed by many groups, culminating in a brutal bombing campaign by NATO - the “defensive” alliance - and the splintering apart of a successful multinational socialist state.

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        I hope Operation Gladio is something you know part of that whole thing was supporting and training the grey wolves, during the cold war and up to 2000 they’ve trained various turkish nationalist/fascist groups that would target the PKK stoking turkish-kurdisch conflict. You have CIA involvement in the middle east in general like the whole Syria thing and of course the Balkans, for example the CIA backed the Kosovo Liberation Army stoking the serb-albanian ethnic conflict.