• frauddogg [null/void, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      Devil’s advocacy recognized: my response runs something to the lines of finding that somewhat hollow comfort when both wings of the duopoly are treading anti-immigrant planks as we speak; and 2/3s of the country is still a whole fucking lot of settlers– even those settlers against anti-immigration policy could be interpreted as ghoulishly knowing where their produce comes from and who staffs their construction lots-- and these settler ghouls cynically know they’re not gonna go replace them.

      • QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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        Not that this helps but a lot of non-white folks also voted for both :/. For the most part everyone’s just scared of losing what they already have… and willing to (consciously or not) put others under the bus at their expense.

      • QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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        Sure only a small fraction of indigenous people voted but a lot of Latinos voted for trump and a lot of black people voted for Harris. A lot of each probably didn’t vote. While I think a lot of value is contained in settlers, I can see why critics would point to such idealist tendencies as assuming all colonized are conscious actors and all settlers are wealthy and invested in the status quo or fascism.

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          A lot of Latinos are white tho I’m surprised I haven’t seen more people pointing this out with all the recent rhetoric around who voted for Trump.

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          Admittedly it’s been years and years since I read Settlers but I’m not sure if I’d consider it idealism, more like a vulgar simplified materialism.

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          This is why we do class analysis and not just identity politics. Plenty of those colonised have ascended to a petit-boug or boug position within the colony (this concept is ever-present in Fanon).

          That’s without addressing the huge issue of false consciousness.