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      Especially when there is Firefox and Firefox-based, privacy-focused alternative with great add-blocking and privacy extensions.

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    Very strongly worded, but yes.

    Brave have had a history of controversy since their inception. Every time something happens, the CEO went on a marketing campaign across social media and drummed up enough new users to drown it out. However the attitude of the business is clear: it would take a very small sack of money for Brave to sell out its users.

    If you’re going to use a Chromium web browser, there are non-commercial open source projects that don’t have a history of shady shit. However Firefox forks are better.

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            I posted the list of alternatives simply because OP asked for forks.

            What’s wrong with Firefox

            Me posting this list shouldn’t be an implication that I believe Firefox to be bad. I’m offering alternatives as the OP requests.

            and how do the forks address those points?

            Every one of the links I shared have detailed information about how their product mutates the original Firefox or Chromium browser. Do you really need me to copy-paste that information into a comment?

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        Other people have given desktop examples. For Android, I use Mull, which also has a companion Android System Webview implementation (Chromium) called Mulch. These are baked into the DivestOS ROM, which itself is a fork of LineageOS.

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            Yes, full support for desktop Firefox extensions. I think it also comes with uBlock Origin by default.

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              Just saw it does support custom add-on collections like Firefox beta and nightly… I’m going to give it a try

              Edit: it supports startpage as search engine out of the box as well!

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                All I can say is try DivestOS :)

                My opinion: It doesn’t have full customisation (compared to eg. CRDroid) but it does at least have call recording and long press back button = kill app process, along with traffic monitors for the status bar. All regular phone calls have a banner at the top reminding you that they’re not secure (as opposed to E2E encrypted chat calls over the internet) and Location permission settings seem to be a bit more expansive than other ROMs.

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      Absoutely. I mostly use Firefox because I’m so familiar with it by now but the privacy is generally much better and it doesn’t have a massive monopoly on the web. I’m just a lot more comfortable with it.

      When I have to, I use ungoogled-chromium on desktop and Bromite on mobile. I recommend those to anyone familiar with Chrome.

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    Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It’s because he donated $1,000 in support of California’s Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California’s state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

    Which is all the reason I need.

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      If he had changed his tune since then and done something to offset that, I might be willing to cut him some slack.

      But, instead, he seems to have doubled down…

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      Seems like the Venn diagram of those two groups approaches a circle, if the OP is any indication.

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      I use firefox as my main but have brave as my chromium/PWA browser because I don’t really fancy using edge or chrome

      What other browsers out there support PWAs that are less spyware-ey than the big names

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        Vivaldi, though it’s source available rather than fully open source. It’s mostly the frontend JavaScript (I think?) code which is proprietary.

        Apparently, if you know enough to understand it, you can technically work out what all the proprietary code is and does because it’s all fairly simple stuff and separate from the Chromium base (which they make available on their site), although distributing it would be against their ToS (I guess it’s technically reverse engineering, which is also against their ToS).

        It’s been a very long time and I can’t actually confirm that for the current release, but it was at least true a few years ago when someone who knew far more about programming than me mentioned it on their forums. I think some people took a look at it and found some basic theming stuff, but nothing nefarious.

        They have a fairly solid privacy policy last I checked. They also have no intention of sticking with Google’s v3 plans.

        The only thing I don’t like is they run a daily user count check by pinging their servers. They’ve made it so that there are no IDs, anonymized or otherwise, but it’s still a bit of a black mark on an otherwise decent piece of software.