Lets take a little break from politics and have us a real atheist conversation.

Personally, I’m open to the idea of the existence of supernatural phenomena, and I believe mainstream religions are actually complicated incomplete stories full of misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and half-truths.

Basically, I think that these stories are not as simple and straightforward as they seem to be to religious people. I feel like there is a lot more to them. Concluding that all these stories are just made up or came out of nowhere is kind of hard for me.

  • satanmat@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Er um— no.

    There is nothing that is “supernatural “

    There is nothing that is proven and repeated not beholden to the laws of nature.

    Yes it is possible, but there isn’t any proof of anything transcending nature. You’re making a “god of the gaps” argument. It is illogical to assume that god or anything supernatural keeps getting smaller and smaller so as to hide in those ever shrinking gaps.

    • aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.worldOP
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      4 days ago

      But we need a name to describe such extraordinary events. If you erase it, what do we call such phenomena? There’s a reason why the word exists. Also, saying that I’m making a god of the gaps argument would also mean that you are making a science of the gaps argument, where you assume that science will always have an answer, and that it is the only truth. It’s why I believe that it’s best to sit on the fence on this topic, your mind being open to ideas of supernatural phenomena, as you still consider rational scientific explanations.

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        2 days ago

        This “then why do we have a word for that” is such a a strange argument

        We also have a word for elves, doesn’t mean they exist

        It’s the same logic I see people applying to Korean, with arguments like “they have no word for depression, therefore they’re happier”, completely ignoring the fact that they have a bridge called “suicide bridge” (guess why)

        • aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 days ago

          If you think the word supernatural is so unneeded, you can petition for it to be taken out of dictionaries and Wikipedia.