Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this - gonna try posting last weekā€™s thread a different way this time)

  • sc_griffith@awful.systems
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    really into this whole far right coup and far right right hegemony thing a lot of countries are trying out rn. really cool

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      As resources get scarcer the lurch back to fascism is going to get worse. People always turn to the simple (but categorically wrong) answers when times get hard, and blaming people who come from other places has historically been a winner for simple and wrong answers. Refugees are a symptom but theyā€™ll be targeted as the cause because their numbers will swell with increasing ā€œnaturalā€ disaster frequency and severity.

      And I have no idea what I can do about it that wouldnā€™t amount to pissing in the wind.

      Sometimes I wonder what future generations will think looking back on the content of todayā€™s internet and humanityā€™s total inability to demonstrate the humane.

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        this was the most half-assed coup in recent memory, hands down

        • hey army do a coup for me

        • parliament said no

        • ok

        no fanatical loyalists in army, no militia or PMC, zero planning at all, even Prigozhin got that sorted out. very similar thing happened just two years ago in Peru, and this year in Bolivia. and same thing will happen this time, impeachment is already written as we speak. army also exactly knew what was going on and didnā€™t participate for a reason

        by the way, south korean presidents donā€™t have a habit of leaving office peacefully, so it all tracks. itā€™s either impeachment or coup or long prison term just after leaving office

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          Wonder if he did the rightwing thing and just went ā€˜the silent majority agrees with my statementsā€™(*) and just assumed the militaries would be all part of the incel crew and fall in line behind him.

          *: On that note there was some cringe thanksgiving video of one of those weird Trump aligned culture war freaks (the daily wire perhaps?) where the freak strides into the thanksgiving event and starts slapping everybody around as some sort of victorious conquerer (at least that is what I imagined was the intended feeling. Not the deranged crazy weirdo vibe it gave off). And this video had a scene which baffled some people, there was a normal guy who was given a big cigar or something and some people were confused why that was a thing. I think that was the imagined ā€˜ā€œnormalā€ silent majority guys all secretly agree with me but they are ashamed to actā€™ thing.

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            I really donā€™t know what was he thinking, looks like army did the bare legal minimum so that they wonā€™t be prosecuted for refusing orders. Thereā€™s a couple of things that can be done with minimal number of loyalists that would make coup easier that werenā€™t done, like cutting power to parliament. This makes me guess that military didnā€™t want a part in this at all

            Iā€™ve seen a take that this was an attempt to get entrenched in power before trump admin begins, as in for foreign relations purposes, but like, itā€™s pretty clear that a couple of people from his family and trusted party people were under investigation so him trying to not allow that sounds more likely. Now that wonā€™t work because as far as i understand by the end of the week there will be impeachment vote

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              Didnā€™t they at least try to block parliament with buses or something? (A thing easily circumvented with the parliamentarians going ā€˜whereever enough of us gather is parliament, the building has no magical qualitiesā€™

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    Time for another round of Rothschild nutsoā€™s to come around now that ChatGPT canā€™t say one of their names.

    At first I was thinking, you know, if this was because of the GDPRā€™s right to be forgotten laws or something that might be a nice precedent. I would love to see a bunch of people hit AI companies with GDPR complaints and have them actually do something instead of denying their consent-violator-at-scale machine has any PII in it.

    But honestly itā€™s probably just because he has money

    I think Sam Altmanā€™s sister accused him of doing this to her name awhile ago too (semi-recent example). I donā€™t think she was on a ā€œdonā€™t generate these words everā€ blacklist, but it seemed like she was erased from the training data and would only come up after a web search.

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      Being erased from the training data is frankly even more galling than the kind of brute force GDPR compliance they seem to have been using. It puts the lie to any claim that theyā€™re just ā€œmoving fast and breaking thingsā€ without mind to the consequences, because clearly there was some reason to prune the training data and make sure that the model didnā€™t have certain information when it was to the companyā€™s (or the founderā€™s) liking.

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      Strong suspicion that the ā€œinterim co-CEOsā€ bit is leading to an attempted sell-off/spin-off of the chip fabs (which are the part of the company getting the nice juicy government subsidies)

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    Sorry about more insta content. Saw this today and it tickled me:

    Left: pinker

    Right: Yeonmi Park, who is known for defecting from north korea and speaking about it. That should be enough if she just told the truth, but for one reason or another (grifting dosh) she has started just making shit up, which I recommend you research for yourself if you are interested.

    Anyway the above picture probably doesnā€™t come as a surprise when you consider her current tack: saying that ā€œwokeā€ and ā€œcancel cultureā€ are the first steps in a country becoming like North Korea. Sheā€™s been on JRE (where she memeably claimed that there is only one train in NK that often requires people to push it). She has a book with her anti-woke thesis with opening shit-volley by old mate JBP.

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      Man that page has got some really wild sentences.

      Parkā€™s claims that human corpses commonly float down North Korean rivers were criticized by Swiss businessman Felix Abt, who lived and worked in the DPRK for seven years.

      Now I donā€™t know if thereā€™s any validity to her claim, but love the expert testimony from Swiss entrepreneur whoā€™s been allowed to tour Pyongyang for a bit.

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        Itā€™s frustrating because there is plenty of real evidence that North Korea is in a bad way. That satellite image is stark and the volume of reports claiming food shortages and lack of basic services are hard to dispute, as is the sheer obsessive control exercised by the government to avoid the depictions of it. You donā€™t need to make up stories about using human corpses to fertilize your fields or whatever.

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          Somehow not the most horrific thing Swiss did just by trading (that would be war profiteering during Iran-Iraq war, when they sold chemical weapons precursors to one side and gas masks to other)

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          Dont think that anybody involved in this is going to be a good person. Of all the people mentioned, Pinker is prob the least worse here. And that is saying much.

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        Yeah in terms of the meme mutation timeline, I believe the initial use would have been from leftists to mock outrageous/outlandishly false claims, in line with Park saying the trains thing. Since then the format has been mutated to also include ā€œthing that exists in culture that is then exaggerated to be construed as dystopianā€ (see the example that soyweiser posted) and also ā€œthing that is straight up dystopian but itā€™s something from the westā€. So I think the only things that would approach the level of humor/absurdity of the original would have to be something else crazy out of YPā€™s mouth.

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      LOL @ North Korea being ā€œwokeā€. If they are, why are they assisting Russia, the Rightā€™s Great White Hope, in a war against a country that these people also denigrate as ā€œwokeā€? But hey, never let facts or logic get in the way of a good grift.

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        I mean, with how young she is thereā€™s absolutely no credibility she can offer on how a country becomes like the ā€œDā€ā€œPā€"R"K. But I can see the superficial similarities between the right-wing griftoverseā€™s depiction of cancel culture and the kind of cultural authority that gets exercised. That Bogeyman is why they use that fanciful description, after all. I can see how easily she could get radicalized from there, not that it justified any of the lies sheā€™s believed and passed on or invented outright.

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          And right now South Koreaā€™s president has declared martial law and banned all political activity, I guess sheā€™ll be just fine with that.

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            Martial law and free speech restrictions are only bad if the bad guys do it, also we get to decide who the bad guys are

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            Yeah, i wonder how laughably terribad takes she will try to spin for her grifting gig out of this situstion

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              I was curious so looked her up. I discovered that there is no rule of law in Chicago and you can just murder people in the streets. And unrelated she did a colab with Gad Saad about her failing dating in the USA or something. Didnā€™t watch the vid, just saw she had a few vids with Saad. (Vids from a year ago which almost nobody watched 35k/15k views. Sad!). On her twitter she has said nothing about SK, but apparently is upset about cancel culture and DEI. The grift is strong with this one.