• 2Password2Remember [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    i have been saying for literally YEARS that if bin laden had flown the planes into the headquarters of a health insurance company he’d be the most popular man in america. ive never felt more vindicated in my life

    the corpse of brian thompson is the gift that keeps on giving

    Death to America

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      I mean… they basically did. Empire Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Morgan Stanley, Lehmann Bros, New York Stock Exchange, a shit load of insurance and investment firms / hedge funds that weren’t particularly well known then but sure as shit were after 2008. In a way it would be kind of interesting to see what the reaction would have been if 9/11 had been in 2009 for example.

      (Assuming relatively close timelines, that you actually believe the official narrative etc)

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    To the numerous people reporting this post - this doesn’t violate any rules. It’s not threatening violence, it’s not a “witch hunt”, it’s not spam. OP is simply pointing out how society is reacting to someone’s death in comparison to another. Just a friendly reminder that knowingly making bad reports is also a violation of Reddit ToS.

    Good mods

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        one reddit mod who was at the scene of the shooting was questioned by police, even he refused to give up the shooter. “the brim of my fedora was in my eyes, i couldn’t see anything. i was jacking off to loli, i didn’t see anyone get shot”

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    I ffucking told y’all yesterday that Reddit was going nuts over this shit. I just saw a long comment chain in fucking /r/technology out for CEO blood

    It’s really like the astroturfers have been turned off. They don’t know what message to push, or they just can’t drown out the real people this time, it’s wild and glorious

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      i feel like we are in uncharted territory here. with the way media works today a single propeganda of the deed style action might actually create some real lasting class consiousness.

      or at least provide an actual basis for solidarity that can be called upon again if a mass movement ever gets off the ground.

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      This is the time to start talking to people. This moment is a great segue to talking about the root of people’s frustrations and why seeing this CEO eat lead made them feel better.

      The moment only radicalizes people when people start talking about it.

      Reddit and other Social Media are gonna crack down hard on the language being used, and that’s what kills radicalization efforts.

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    You’re going to have a hard time convincing people that deaths caused with excel are comparable to ones caused by a plane

    This is actually extremely interesting from a sociological POV and while I can’t prove it, I’ve had this conversation before and somehow it’s always (conveniently) “different”

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      There’s a quote from the Vietnam war (I wanna say Phil Caputo?) about morality being a measure of distance and technology. If you kill people up close with a bayonet, it’s horrible. If you kill people from afar by ordering an airstrike (or denying people insurance coverage they need), it’s more acceptable.

      It’s a vision of morality where we judge actions by how icky they would make the perpetrator feel by doing them, rather than the harm the actions cause to the victims. The Master’s morality, I suppose?

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          I think some of it is framed as “well the insurance company doesn’t have to give you anything, so it’s not murder to deny coverage when they don’t really owe you anything anyway.”

          But that just indicates the person saying it doesn’t understand that our healthcare system is so fucked up because of the insurance industry. The price, the administrative bloat, the declining quality, all in some way directly traceable back to these piece-of-shit insurance companies and their fucking lobbyists.

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          because if we take the conclusion they are equally evil to its logical conclusion, it leads to some very uncomfortable truths - including the absolute barbarity of the status quo. Most people feel uncomfortable as they follow that line of thought, so terminate it early and obfuscate it

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        Except instead of killing one stranger to save five you are killing one person to earn $10 and saving no one and then repeating the process, letting you kill more people to earn more money. Still apparently a moral mystery to some people, but I think framing it around an operator of public transport starts to fall apart.

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            Trolleys are wonderful and I use them in my daily life to get around. I don’t want to be late because they’re cleaning the Thompson cartiledge out of the tracks just because you can’t frame your moral problems around high intensity lasers or something else that doesn’t affect my commute.

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      the entire liberal world order is premised on the idea that social murder is “different” than normal murder

      the central axiom is that letting someone starve or freeze to death outside has no perpetrator, nobody to blame, it’s just a bad thing that happens naturally.

      If there’s a large socialist state attempting to cover everyone’s needs and if they miss 1 person, THAT is murder according to Liberals. But in a capitalist society where nobody is attempting to cover everyone’s needs the deaths of thousands are just natural. Thus, to a Liberal, the morally correct thing to do is not even attempt to try and just let thousands die. Touching the trolley lever makes you guilty, so it’s best to never try to improve anything.