• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I mean, why wouldn’t you? It’s only the habitability of our planet we’re talking about. It’s not like the economy tanked or anything.

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    10 months ago

    The state is equally responsible as oil companies.

    Remember who they are when your house gets destroyed in a wildfire, your anger is justified and they deserve retribution

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      10 months ago

      In democracies, you have the power to change ge who runs the state. That’s generally a lot easier than violent retribution

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        Democracy is great in that it lets you choose the boots of your opponent to some degree – some are stompier than others . But we should not expect that the state can or will solve any of the big problems.

        The state is a tool used to maintain power.

        We have to solve the problems by building the future directly, now.

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        The problem is that a huge portion of humans are easily influenced and susceptible to propaganda.

        If one party tells you that you have to adapt your lifestyle since using gas and oil for transportation and heating and eating meat every day is not going to work for longer and another party lies in your face that it’s not a problem then people will totally fall for the bullshit that lets them live in ignorance.

        Just look at how often you read the “100 companies” bullshit here that is shifting the blame but completely ignoring that personal responsibility has to come first so politicians have a chance. If a politician would suggest to triple prices on gas prices, flying and eating meat that politician would never win an election even though it would be necessary to do.

        Sure the 100 billionaires that are emitting 1000x as much as a normal person are gigantic assholes and their emissions should be brought down but changing the emissions of a whole country has a far bigger effect.

  • MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works
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    There was this post on tiktok today of some psycho us Marshall ramming protestors vehicles and everyone was like “fuck yeah. Show them who is boss”

    I felt really out of place. Like. How is this ok? How is this going to make housing more affordable?

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    10 months ago

    It’s ridiculous how many cops are getting by one an occasion like these. Anything else happening and they be like “nah”.

    Eat the rich!

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    About the protest in France. At the time of the protest there was literally just a big hole in the ground, nothing that could be damaged by the protesters.

    The protesters wanted to reach it, say that they are against it and leave.

    But instead, for no valid reason since there is nothing to protect, the police attacked the protesters injuring hundred of protesters. They shot 5000 teargas grenades for 6000 protesters, including families that came for a peaceful protest.

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    But WHY? Seriously, are these cops brainwashed? Have they no children?

    I know, I know, 1312 - but really? How much of a bastard can you be?

    Does anyone know a goddamn cop who can explain what the fuck is going on in their minds?

    LOSE YOUR JOB! DO WHATEVER ELSE! PICK UP EMPTY CANS ON THE STREET! Isn’t anything better than doing this??

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    If they’re cracking down on the people gluing themselves to random objects/highways and, as is described in the article, assaulting others with rocks, then I see nothing wrong with that.

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      Seriously being treated as a terrorist and 30 days of jail for maybe glueing yourself on a street as polictical protest, is a normal fair reaction in your mind?

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          Can you point me to any of the climate protestors being convicted in a court for stopping or delaying emergency services? Because I know of cases were the police lied about this kind of stuff happening.

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      So you see anything wrong with the people in power basically dooming humanity to a climate ravaged future?

      Because to me that is far far far more extreme and unacceptable than some small number of protestors.

      I wish protestors could go far further. They are perfectly justified in doing so.

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          Yeah, no, sorry, I’m not gonna side against the protestors. What they should truly do is halt the whole economy, to really make the people in power feel it.

          Anything less than that and it can just be ignored.

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      “oh the inconvenience!” piss off you’ll be remembering this in a few years when the supply chains go to shit cause of the impending temp shift

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          We are all doing better than the “glue yourself to things” people because they’re moving things backwards, turning people against climate action, distracting from climate issues.

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            because all self described climate protesters glue themselves to things

            ._.

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    Good, these “protesters” are mostly idiots being a burden on the general Public. They should fuck with politicians but just block the main roads and disturb the life of normal working people.