• Rimu@piefed.social
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    3 hours ago

    What are the chances the Saudis have a torture prison just like that one in Syria?

  • hark@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Good to note when this overgrown child gets his turn to be regime changed.

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      2 hours ago

      Indeed! Maybe they can even pause the executions for a while during the festivities

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    16 hours ago

    FYI for non saudis: you can be charged with terrorism for “apostasy”, or “witchcraft”, or “endangering the status quo” (criticizing or revolting against the royal family in any way). So high chance that many of the 45 executed for terrorism aren’t even terrorists.

    Oil truly is a curse.

  • small44@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Biden, didn’t you said that you will support the rebels in Syria if they respect human rights? So why are you still an ally to Saudi Arabia?

    • David J. Shourabi Porcel@lemmy.world
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      So why are you still an ally to Saudi Arabia?

      For two reasons: to try to soften the cost of living crisis and for strategic interests.

      To be fair, Biden not only pledged to reassess the relationship between the US and Saudi Arabia, but also oversaw the beginnings of a reset, however soft. As inflation hit households and surging oil and gas prices threatened to make it sticky, his administration and other governments –notably Germany’s three way coalition– faced a choice: whether to expend political capital –much of it, in the case of the German Greens– to appeal to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Azerbaijan and other oil and gas producers to increase supply in an attempt to alleviate inflationary pressure. Ultimately, this bet failed: people –like you– are rightfully angry over their governments’ appeasement to authoritarian regimes, which didn’t reciprocate and instead curtailed oil and gas supply, and the cost of living crisis arguably lost Democrats the election anyway — and looks set to deliver a similar blow to the three German coalition’s members.

      The other reason for the Biden administration’s continued cooperation with Saudi Arabia is that the kingdom is a regional partner helping the US operate in the region. Although the US have been operating there in a way detrimental to life and livelihood, it needn’t be so. Were the US to exert a better influence on the region, as I and likely you too wish, Saudi Arabia would be useful for both military power projection and diplomatic endeavours. For example, if the US had stopped supplying offensive weapons to Israel, an allied Saudi Arabia might have helped secure peace and prevent Israel’s enemies from capitalizing on the moment, whether with air defenses or diplomatic efforts.

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    16 hours ago

    ah yes this is the kind of equality MBS can get behind. idk what i have expected