• sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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        19 hours ago

        They still tie it to your ID since you need the phone number.

        And we just trust them not to share your social map to NSA which they totally don’t do. Trust me bro

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          6 hours ago

          I’m way more concerned about the privacy of what I say than who I say it to.

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          4 hours ago

          Guess I better stick with Facebook messenger then.
          /s Does that even exist still?

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          18 hours ago

          That they do, but your contacts doesn’t have to get it anymore.
          A self-hosted matrix stack built from source with matrix clients built from source with e2ee implemented that you yourself have the competence to verify the encryption and safety of would be the only secure communication I know of if you don’t want to trust a third party.

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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              14 hours ago

              Doesn’t XMPP tend to use always-active sockets? I looked into switching my number to a VOIP service and considered jmp.chat, but I heard people complain about phone battery life. I’m going to test it out soon, but if I go that route, I may consider hosting my own XMPP server if it can handle both my phone (i.e. answer calls on my computer instead of phone) and regular IM.

              And Simplex is awesome, but my issue is having the same account on multiple devices. I want to be able to see and respond to messages on my work laptop, personal laptop, personal desktop, and phone, and it seems Simplex only has basic support for it. I’m still playing with it, and I may end up switching to it, but for now, the experience isn’t very user-friendly.

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                13 hours ago

                I am very unfamiliar with jmp.chat and don’t use notifications, but from what I’ve heard - Conversations (with UnifiedPush notifications) isn’t that bad.

                As for Simplex - a problem indeed, you effectively can’t have an account shared between devices, but I just have identical profiles on my phone and computer. Also, people have complained about it consuming battery quickly (they switch to checking for notification every set interval to save it).

                But yeah - I think both are worth trying to see if maybe one of them fits you! They’re both super easy to host.

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                  13 hours ago

                  Yup. I got my SO to try out Signal as an alternative to SMS, so hopefully that works. If we can consistently use it, I’m going to nudge my other contacts (mostly my family members) to switch as well, because it’s certainly better than SMS. Signal is the most popular SMS alternative AFAICT, so it’s the safe choice.

                  That said, I installed Simplex on both my phones and connected them, and my kids had a blast sending messages to each other. I’m going to keep playing with it and probably host my own collection of nodes, but so far, the implementation details bleed through and kind of tarnish the user experience. I’ll keep messing with it though, and maybe we’ll end up using it as an in-house chat or something as a kind of Discord alternative. Or maybe I’ll host a Matrix node. We’ll see.

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      15 hours ago

      After Signal’s lie about dropping SMS support because of “engineering costs”, I really can’t believe anything else they say.

      Plus the app experience sucks, it’s no better than SMS.

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        6 hours ago

        Wasn’t another explanation people mistakenly sending SMS and getting fucked when they meant to send a Signal message?

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        14 hours ago

        it’s no better than SMS

        That’s not true, but even so, the whole point is to be an alternative to SMS. It provides that experience, so I’m happy.