• Saleh@feddit.org
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    It is the same proposal that was negotiated in Spring already. It only now came moments before Trump took office. What changed between Spring and now? How could Biden exert pressure on Israel as he was leaving office that he couldn’t in Spring already?

    The reality is that Biden was unwilling to put any pressure on Israel to agree to any sort of deal and instead kept sending them more and more weapons, no matter how atrocious their crimes. Also Bidens team was eager to emphasize how they worked together with Trumps team in making it happen now.

    This was not something Biden achieved or wanted to achieve.

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      Watching the switch from “I can’t possibly vote for the lesser of two evils” to “ethnic cleansing isn’t as bad as genocide” is morbidly hilarious.

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        Voting for either is wrong. Vote for a party that wants to commit neither.

        If you hate brussel sprouts more than cale, but you hate both of them, the logical choice is to eat neither. Doesnt mean that the one cant be worse than the other.

        Or to put it in mathematic terms:

        -2 is a negative number. -3 is a smaller negative number. Both are negative numbers. You can acknowledge that -2 is larger than -3 without having to claim either to be a positive number.

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          23 hours ago

          If you hate brussel sprouts more than cale, but you hate both of them, the logical choice is to

          Starve?

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          And if you are getting either kale or brussel sprouts put in your mouth whether you want either of them or not, it makes sense to choose the one you dislike less.

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              But the winner in the general was going to be either the D or the R regardless. Seriously, fewer than 1% of state and federal legislators are 3rd party. It’s been 1 presidential election shy of 60 years that a third party candidate has received a single electoral vote, even including Perot with almost 19% of the popular vote. Third party isn’t happening without election reform. So I’m always going to vote for least harm in the general. I’ll vote for progressives in the primary.

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      So Biden gets no credit for negotiating a ceasefire. For… reasons. But Trump suggesting ethnic cleansing is better because it doesn’t meet your definition of genocide.

      What a bunch of disingenuous bullshit.

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        To be fair most political analysts are giving Trump much of the credit. Biden didn’t bring anything new to the table except for allowing Trump and his envoy to participate.

        The envoy set the tone early with Netanyahu, making him break Sabbath to attend their meeting. Netanyahu was not in Trump’s good graces to begin with so some feel that he went forward with the cease-fire as a ‘down payment’

        A down payment for what you ask? Well I guess we just found out.