Okay, we know that the US can’t be trusted because it’s political compass wil lalways be changing. So what now? We need to organize, but how? Volt Europa is pretty weak and several people I have met have expressed dislike for them, the EU is gonna be reactive instead of proactive towards threats as always, Elon is trying to buy out more parties in EU…

How to proceed? Anything to do that doesn’t seem hopeless, like voting for paneuropean parties, or leaving US based platforms for EU based, less developed platforms (like Peertube instead of Youtube, or Matrix instead of Whatsapp?

I wish EU was stronger and both the EU and its citizens (and netizens) les reliant on external services (like youtube, reddit, whatsapp, discord, etc.), and I want to do something about it, but I feel completely lost and hopeless.

  • EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    one of the reasons why Volt is considered weak is because it’s small and young, that also means that it can be fixed if you people join their local chapters and try to be active and help however they can, just like any organization.

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      8 hours ago

      one of the reasons why Volt is considered weak is because it’s small and young,

      Maybe because they want a sort of (Con) Federation for the EU. I was surprised to see that many citizens don’t seem to want that .

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        A lot of citizens do want an European federation. The topic is not in the mainstream so it’s hard to gauge, bit either way Volt isn’t a single-issue party, there’s more to it than just EU federation (which is a long termine goal of the party)

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          lot of citizens do want an European federation.

          Idk, I had assumed that, but negative votes on my lemmy posts, made me think differently… FYI, I did vote for Volt. Most local and international issues make sense. Plus, I specially like the difference in local en eu approach of that party.

          edit : according to the 2013 EU barometerinfo in wiki

          “44% of respondents support the future development of the European Union as a federation of nation states, 35% are opposed. The Nordic countries were the most negative towards a united Europe in this study, as 73% of the Nordics opposed the idea”

          Couldn’t find any more concrete data, just that 40% wants more co-operation in defense and so.

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            The current problem is that the EU is not very democratic and dominated by a few large member states. As long as there isn’t an effort to limit the power of these overly large states, the smaller ones will never agree to more integration as it would just mean assimilation for them.

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              7 hours ago

              dominated by a few large member states.

              I do agree that the EU should be more democratic, it’s always annoyed me.

              You mean France/German EU axis? There’s also a positive discrimination/preference for founding & larger members. But since EU is mainly alot of smaller states and some bigger states, I mean the bigger ones do have more people (and money). How would you even that out?

              Seems though times are changing , i e. current Polish EU council presidency ( and their role in leading the House) and also Kallas.

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                6 hours ago

                Germany for example could easily be split up into its federal states and those could have a representation at EU level. The same is true for Spain and to a lesser extend France and Italy.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Could be a way. Maybe in some decades, but not in the short term. Not sure Germany is the best example, as it was relatively recently unified. Unification and Splitting up, can be a charged subject too (Serbia & Moldova; Romania & Transistria etc. etc).

                  Though splitting up countries in more automous provinces/cantons, would be a big plus for more direct democracy in the future, if and when people and local government can be trusted. which at the moment is a big “if”.

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      Reasons for Volt being criticized are some of their decisions in the past and their base philosophy creating an EU leader similar to US Präsident or chancelors.

      It seems that some are a bit starry-eyed about reasons and about what to do

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        8 hours ago

        Within volt views are probably mixed. Dure there may ne some starry-eyes but you won’t get far without a dream after all. And again it’s not something that can’t be fixed by joining and contributing, which is probably better than sitting on your screen and being on Lemmy to debate how everything is flawed tbf.