The European Comission has granted €20 million to STEP, the European consortium that will create the AI model. It will be open source, European regulations-compliant and unlike Deepseek, its dataset will also be open source and will be trained in 35 languages.

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    33 minutes ago

    with that little money split between that many institutions, nothing will come of it.

    It’s especially pointless ever since DeepSeek R1 dropped. Now everyone has the recipie to build state of the art models, so it’s only a matter of time until European companies will create one.

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      1 hour ago

      At the very least the name is much more technically accurate by putting LLM instead of AI in there.

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    I am conflicted about this choice. I am happy that the EU Commission will invest funds into open source technologies, but at the same time the US and China are already investing enough into “free as in free beer” models. Is it really worth it building yet another model?

    Why not fund open source software development instead of funding machine learning? €20 million would do miracles divided between a few teams of developers, but they might merely be bread crumbs for machine learning training.

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      39 minutes ago

      2 main issues with the lack of Euro models: 1) Performance of all SOTA models is much better in English. 2) US models have US values. It’s yet another tool to culturally assimilate Europe (and the rest of the world too)

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      Is it really worth it building yet another model?

      Yes, it is, and it has to do with independence and many other reasons. It’ll be multilingual, legally compliant, it comes without Chinese nor other censorship, it is open source unlike Deepseek, ChatGPT, and others.

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        Mmh, okay that makes sense. Especially the multilinguality would be pretty important. As for the legality, we’ll see how it goes. Do we even know if it’s really possible to build a good model with only legally acquired data?

        As for the censorship, as far as I know, for DeepSeek’s models it’s injected in the prompt after the training is completed, so it shouldn’t really be censored if you run it locally.

        But yeah, you have raised good points. Thanks.

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      That money should definitely go towards funding sovereign cloud infrastructure and open source software instead of vaporware AI bullshit. Where will you run your LLMs if you have no infra…

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    Well, investing a mere €20 millions won’t achieve much. On the other hand I’m glad they aren’t wasting more money on it.

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      Wasn’t DeepSeek v3 trained with single-digit million dollars budget?

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        34 minutes ago

        Iirc leaked numbers says something closer to 1 billion USD

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        Probably not. There’s a lot of reasons to be skeptical of those claimed numbers.