For example, I downloaded Tor network and using it for illegal activities. Can my govt track me? Can US govt track me? With Signal fiasco, I can’t trust softwares that I’m not familiar with.
I know it encrypts something but if I remember correct, FBI was able to find some Tor users before.
Note: illegal activities was for example. I’m not going to do anything illegal. I’m just planning to serve my instance with a onion address.
This post glows so hard I’m going to need a pair of sunglasses.

Wait, is the joke about me being CIA? Cause I’m not CIA absolutely 100%
That’s exactly what a fed would say
It’s simple. If you ask a cop if he’s a cop, he’s like, obligated to tell you. It’s in the Constitution. So go ahead and ask.
breaking bad reference
Most tor users got caught because of bad OPSEC, not because of the tor network itself…
Bad opsec and hubris/idiocy.
Maybe, parallel construction confuses the quality of ToR a bit. If I was a APT and compromised ToR I wouldn’t want anyone to know, so i would use parallel construction to always have a non-ToR reason for a take down.
So we need other security methods besides using Tor? Like what?
Not using anything Google/Microsoft related would be a good start.
Don’t do illegal activities.
What signal fiasco?
You should read the Tor foundation documentation before trusting your freedom to it.
You can be tracked on Tor, but the question is by who, and when. If you login to gmail over tor then google knows your using tor. If you access tor from your home computer then your isp knows your using tor.
If your threat model includes Advanced Persistent Threats at the nation state level, then they can do Cybill attacks and control enough nodes that they could track you.
What I meant with Signal fiasco is, they didn’t published server code for a year and the fact that they’re a US establishment. It’s not looking that bad but I’m not going to trust them anymore.
ToR was started by the US Navy and still gets funding from the navy every year. ToR is a tool used by the US for spooks and spook assets globally. The only reason it was made public was to generate enough noise to hide the spook talk.
So applying your logic means you shouldn’t use ToR either.
Hmm, maybe you’re right. But still its not like they didn’t released the source code for a year.
https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server
Its there now, but you never know what they are really running on their servers. In end to end networks, you should never trust the network, only the clients.
I think you need to take time and model out your threats, the EFF has tools to help you do this, then choose the tools that match best.
You’re right. Thats why I like Matrix more than Signal now.
Also I’m not looking for a security method to escape from a specific target. It’s all curiosity about general security.
matrix leaks metadata to the servers much worse then signal, just FYI. Hating how a team runs is different then then risk profile of the product.
Don’t like emotions cloud your decision making
I’m not hating. I just like keeping my half encrypted data on my own server instead of fully encrypted on someone else’s server.
Signal fiasco?
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I guess the phone number leak, I wouldn’t really call it a fiasco though
That was also a hack on Twilio. Signal itself wasn’t compromised in any way if I am not wrong.
I said “fiasco” because they did not share the backend server repo for a while and did not make any statement about it. Maybe a little overreaction than it should be. But for an app that promises privacy, it’s kinda annoying.
Oh that, yeah that was pretty bad tbh
Please don’t do anything illegal…
As long as you stay far far away from Javascript, you should be fine.
smart move to add that note, they nearly send out a swat team
@iso depends if you click on this click: https://dowloadtor.melroy.org
Were the link go? I’m too spooked to click
The Curiosity of the human mind is the weakest link.
WDYM I just downloaded Tor Browser from there and its working as expected. But interestingly it was Chromium based.
Isn’t Tor browser based on Firefox?
I’m intrigued. What is that link?
The Curiosity of the human mind is the weakest link.
Actually, that’s what makes us better. Even if the price is death of one for knowledge of the whole race
I fully agree with you ;) … Although a lot of animals are curious as well. But I mean it’s one of the weakest links in terms of security. The human is the weakest link.











