Summary

The Pennsylvania attorney representing Luigi Mangione, charged with murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City, contends Mangione’s arrest in Altoona was unconstitutional.

Officers supposedly approached him without cause and failed to read his Miranda rights at a McDonald’s after a five-day manhunt.

Mangione has pleaded not guilty to murder and related state and federal charges, including potential death penalty eligibility.

Mangione’s New York lawyer likewise cites constitutional violations during arrest, raising the possibility that key evidence could be suppressed.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    You don’t need to make a new party for this issue. Universal Healthcare is literally a Core DNC stance.

    One which they find enough no votes for.

    The moment they had supermajority with caucusing IND in 2013 (for only 72 days) they took it to vote and one of the IND betrayed us leaving it at 59 and filibustered by Republicans

    Sorry to interrupt Revisionist History Corner here, but the ACA was passed via reconciliation, which requires only 50 votes in the Senate. Why didn’t they put the public option back in?

    The public option was designed to be jettisoned from day one. It’s why biden broke his promise to revisit it.

    And the guy you’ve designated a scapegoat because he carried out the will of your party? Lieberman? Your party’s VP nominee from 2000? Guess the party doesn’t hate independents when they do the bidding of the industries that own them.

    causing us to instead get the Medicaid Expansion

    *offer void in states democrats don’t give a shit about.

    You’re trying to coast on 15 year old legislation, and will likely do so forever.

    We gave democrats a majority in 2020. They could have done away with the filibuster that you will use as an excuse. Wonder what happened to that filibuster on January 20, since democrats can’t seem to figure out how to use it. But it sure is useful as an excuse for when democrats break their campaign promises.

    Keep pulling on the side of the rope with your allies in the insurance industry, but don’t pretend you’re on the side of anyone else.

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      We actually haven’t even given Democrats 50 in about a decade. After the 111th congress they had 53 and we’ve given them less than that every election since. They had caucusing independents for 50 and a VP tiebreaker just to get majority in 2020, meaning they literally didn’t even outnumber the GOP even with independents on their side. The ACA did NOT pass via Reconciliation. It passed with 60 votes after the concessions and negotiations.

      In fact, from 2011 to 2021 there were congressional rules enacted by republicans against any reconciliation votes on medicaid, medicare, food stamps, farms, etc.

      The fact of the matter is people aren’t supporting the DNC, such as yourself, and that is the reason why we aren’t getting universal healthcare.

      The argument you’re making is exactly the sort of both-sides-bad content that Tankies are placing their bets on and the reason they’re supporting Luigi Mangione content.

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        They had caucusing independents for 50 and a VP tiebreaker just to get majority in 2020, meaning they literally didn’t even outnumber the GOP even with independents on their side.

        They had enough to pass legislation without a single republican vote. Stop splitting hairs.

        The fact of the matter is people aren’t supporting the DNC, such as yourself

        The fact is you support them onlo so long as they DON’T do anything to constrain the insurance industry.

        The argument you’re making is exactly the sort of both-sides-bad content that Tankies

        Yes, everyone to the left of netanyahu is a tankie. Anything to keep you and the insurers on the same side. You just want to keep the same status quo that keeps exploiting people to death with no criticism whatsoever.

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          Just going to gloss over how I caught you in an outright lie about how the ACA passed and the restrictions on reconciliation?

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            I was mistaken. Its companion legislation passed via reconciliation.

            At least the public option died because your vp nominee killed it for you, with the help of Senator Ben Nelson, also a democrat so you can’t pretend that only independents hate patients and want them to go bankrupt and die.

            But you will anyway. Just like you pretend that Democrats never have a majority because then you don’t have to expect anything from them.

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              The Universal Healthcare vote lost by 1 independent vote, Joe Lieberman. Nelson broke the 60 needed for the final watered down version of the bill to pass. Why are you such a dirty liar?