“Canadians may have gone in for wokeness in recent years, it is true, but there is the matter of their bloody-minded DNA. It was not that long ago that they harvested baby seals—the ones with the big, sad, adorable brown eyes—with short iron clubs. They love hockey, a sport that would have pleased the emperors and blood-crazed plebeians and patricians of ancient Rome if they could only have figured out how to build an ice rink in the Colosseum.” 😅

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    Regardless of bloody dna or not, as an American, why the fuck would anybody want to invade Canada?

    To me, it (yes I’m unfortunately very aware of current American politics and the rise of fascism) sounds the same as “let’s invade Mexico” or “let’s invade Britain”. Like, bruh, if the us formally invades anybody rn, the country will shut down like a toddler that you’re trying to make skip naptime. We’re on the fucking brink of a civil war, the only things from us that you should be considering is how to integrate cascadia into your country and how to arm us against that ratshit for brains, trump and his billionaire autistic nazi musketeer, musk.

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    I like the rhetoric, but the reality is we don’t stand a fucking chance. It’ll end up turning into an insurgency, not a stand up fight. Our military will crumble instantly, it’ll be an occupation, and we’ll be the next taliban.

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      We’d definitely lose on our own, but we’re part of NATO. If the US invades Canada, every other NATO member would come to our defense.

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        Bit different in this scenario. Not only would the idea of fighting the most powerful military on earth cause hesitation, but they’d be doing it from across the ocean where the us would no doubt have their navy stationed with nuclear submarines, destroyers, and air craft carriers. That, and if Russia is going to become more aggressive, which Trump is obviously empowering him to do, Europe needs to worry about itself. We are right next to them as well meaning they would be able to take us with almost no trouble. So nato would now have to conquer the us not just defend against it. Also, nato has never been tested in a situation like this. We don’t know if the alliance would just fall apart or something. As a Canadian, I’m not really counting on them too much since the idea of them actually successfully protecting us seems completely out to lunch. I’m thinking nato falls apart once the us leaves it and is replaced by a more European oriented military alliance.

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    Above all…what’s the point? No one in their right mind wants to live there except for Canadians! Its fucking cold! Its amazing anything happens there at all. Regardless, it’s their country and Trump is one full blown grade A dumbass. I like Canadians!

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      If the climate keeps getting warmer then huge parts of Canada will become temperate and farm-able, while places that are currently temperate will become too hot to live in or farm.

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      Im west coast. We had 2 days of snow this year about 4 inch deep. Ive lived east coast and its the same as maryland weather. Its no more cold than what you guys get.

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        I live in San Diego. You are quite a bit colder than what we get. You can keep your snow, if I want to go snowboarding, I have an ocean less than a mile away, and there’s always the mountains an hour and a half drive to the east.

        Surfing and snowboarding are remarkably similar activities.

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    There are way too many people talking about hypotheticals and trying to do “logical” thinking why attacking allies is a bad idea.

    The powers in the USA are NOT LOGICAL. They are cutting social systems, they are tanking their stock market, causing irreparable harm to their economy, and military industrial system.

    Talking about it like its “logical”, and coming from the USA where their media, the people that are supposed to know what’s going on and communicating it to the USA public is idiotic. They don’t even have the common curtesy to make sure that they have the corret titles and honorifics when talking to our leaders.

    Governor Carney Prime Minster Ford Prime Minsiter Jolie

    Fuck them all.

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      This is what is so terrifying and makes this very real. They don’t care about logic, at least not what we think as logic.

      However, I would argue that it is fairly logical overall for the United States to do this. I had a feeling it would happen eventually due to two main factors:

      • Climate change. They may deny it, but it’s a tactic to prevent the public from realizing this: the USA, along with many other countries, will not be able to run efficiently or even at all very soon because of the impacts from climate change. It is too costly to manage and management will not prevent the worst of it anyways. They will not have enough resources to sustain their population. Canada is incredibly resource dense and perhaps one of the better countries to live during the climate changes predicted. Although, on this note, New Zealand is probably poised better. I wonder if they aren’t targeting it because they have all their bunkers there already anyways, or if it’s on their list for the future. There’s also all of the new resources and trade route through the Arctic. I could go on but this point deserves a post of its own to lay out the full details.
      • A last “hurrah”, because they know the climate is changing at a rapid pace and there won’t be other chances to live out their dictator dreams. They want to be kings of the world, and this is likely humanity’s last chance to hold such a title. This is why they aren’t playing around with trying to make fair trade deals instead of just taking over. It’s not as fun. And trade deals are likely not as secure for them too, since, as we have seen, trade deals ultimately don’t mean shit.

      When viewed through this lens, their potential plans don’t really sound so crazy.

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        I agree with the lack of logic, as Trump yesterday announced wartime powers, using the pretense of being at war with gangs to justify the order.

        That said, I don’t see any invasion being based upon any real need, even from an economic level. In fact, such an act will be extremely counterproductive and will harm not only their general economy, but the bottom line of many of their top businesses. Not to mention that any project to extract Canadian resources that aren’t already abundant in the US will take at least a half decade to even start producing, with profits only emerging two decades after any annexation at best.

        And that presumes that any extraction is done quickly and smoothly. Frankly speaking, the issue is that to extract most things at scale, everything needs to be built up from the ground level, including roads.

        That doesn’t even start with the liklihood of constant protests and vandalism, including some crazies that try to shoot out tires and critical equipment.

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    The last time Americans fucked with Canada… the Whitehouse and DC were burned to the ground.

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      That was the british army. Its not correct to say canada did that.

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        We (Americans) also basically failed at nearly every single engagement that was an attempted incursion into British/Canadian territory or attack on a British fort/settlement west of the US proper, they were pretty much all either repulsed, or only initially successful for a short amount of time and then driven out.

        I could be wrong, but I am willing to bet that many of those soldiers opposing the Americans involved in initial American incursions into Canada were British soldiers who lived in Canada, and/or were Native/First Nations allies of the British, and are thus proto-Canadians, unlike the Royal Navy and Marines who showed up in force within about a year, and were then withdrawn after the US basically sued for peace.

        I agree that it’s an oversimplification to view the entire war as just US vs a nascent Canada, but I also think it’s an oversimplification to view the entire war as the US vs the UK.

        Also I didn’t state that Canadians burned down DC. I said that the last time the US fucked with Canada, the result was our capitol being burned down.

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        Sure, but The Geneva Convention is quite literally a list of things that The Canadians did in WWI that we collectively agreed was going a bit too far for war.

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      True but a lot has changed in that time and all out warfare would not be good for us.

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      As if being “woke” is a bad thing anyway.

      Better than sleepwalking into fascism.

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      At this point even the pro-Canada American takes are pissing me off honestly

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      Canada is a much more left-wing country than the United States, and absorbing it could well revive the political fortunes of progressives

      I’m also getting really fucking sick of this talking point. We’re not going to vote in American elections because we’re not going to be American and I don’t even want to hear any thought exercises on the subject

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        As if they would give us senators and equal voting rights. The US is now a hostile rogue nation on par with the DPRK and Venezuela as far as I’m concerned.

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        Hmm liking all pows being forced to listen to the war of 1812 by three trolls in a baggie in a continuous loop with no rest as a start. But this is just an appetizer of an idea feel free to add to the menu

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      No, no, far more useful to exercise our right to arm bears. Would you charge at a grizzly with a machine gun?

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        Ya see, what you do is; put the baby meese along the border, but don’t tell people that their mamas are nearby. The rest writes itself. Most Americans have no idea how aggressive an animal with antlers the size of VW bugs can be.