Ah yes, war in Ukraine, very relevant to the climate crisis. I think she’s gone the “Neil de Grasse Tyson way” of being famous for a thing and just hopping onto whatever is tangentially related and popular right now. Disappointing, but what would you expect from lib group that thinks they invented striking, and have no tangible demands? She’s not relevant and the only reason libs think she is is because she’s a white European who obeys the law. Go ask what they think of the (still very mild) Extinction Rebellion.
She’s not relevant and the only reason libs think she is is because she’s a white European who obeys the law
Well put, comrade. Never paid attention to her even when she first came up, because that was my immediate impression. She’s the literal embodiment of white, middle-class European bourgeois sentiment.
As for mixing climate activism and the Ukraine war, I’ve actually seen quite a few speeches and contributions by climate-focused orgs on peace demonstrations outlining the absurd damage of militaries and this war specifically on the environment. It is possible to combine the two to make genuine anti-capitalist, anti-war points. She simply chooses not to.
Go ask what they think of the (still very mild) Extinction Rebellion.
Just look at their response to the “Last Generation” (misguided libs gluing themselves to streets to form human roadblocks; damaged some paintings). German politicans literally compared them to the fucking RAF lmao
She’s the literal embodiment of white, middle-class European bourgeois sentiment.
She is the child of famous Swedish actor Svante Thunberg and opera singer Malena Ernman (who represented Sweden in Eurovision 2009), so when she got famous I suspected it was some kind of stunt pushed by her parents as, like with many rich and privileged people, they probably had plenty of contacts on their deck to be able to garner media attention. It doesn’t surprise me that she and her family would be the milquetoast white liberal Swedes that they are.
It was especially (if morbidly) fun to watch that development in postsocialist countries where actors and singers tried to gap the century of development of celebritism in just two decades. They had everything, but faster: faster money, faster careers, child actors, feudal-level nepotism, and of course faster drama on sex, drugs, marriages and divorces etc.
Honestly i’m pretty much surprised they didn’t incested themselves out of conventional DNA chains in single generation.
As for mixing climate activism and the Ukraine war, I’ve actually seen quite a few speeches and contributions by climate-focused orgs on peace demonstrations outlining the absurd damage of militaries and this war specifically on the environment. It is possible to combine the two to make genuine anti-capitalist, anti-war points. She simply chooses not to.
Fair point. I guess what I tried to say there is that the war (and specifically Ukraine continuing and eventually winning it) is rather tangential to fighting the climate crisis and an odd cause to put in your famous climate organisation behind uncritically. Imagine being so European that human lives are less relevant than “holding Russia accountable” on damages to local ecology.
Totally with you there. It is only tangentially related. I just wanted to point out that principled, anti-capitalist environmentalists can and actually have to be active in the peace movement. You can use the popularity of this issue to agitate against war. People do it. Thunberg just refuses to. But not because her main focus is climate change, but because she’s a dishonest, bourgeois white liberal.
Southboi here, yeah she isn’t. Only people who even bother talking about her are terminally online fascists. Or just silly memes. At most the defence for her is against people demanding human rights abuses against her, bigotry, lies or stuff like that, not her movement. Sadly the internet is hosted in the North so we gotta learn these Swedish unpronounceable names to debunk imported nonsense conspiracy theories sometimes.
I am also from global South, I am not defending her anymore as she lacks a principle stance against imperialism and Nazism. She is same along Stephen King and others who are blind Russophobic.
Ah yes, war in Ukraine, very relevant to the climate crisis. I think she’s gone the “Neil de Grasse Tyson way” of being famous for a thing and just hopping onto whatever is tangentially related and popular right now. Disappointing, but what would you expect from lib group that thinks they invented striking, and have no tangible demands? She’s not relevant and the only reason libs think she is is because she’s a white European who obeys the law. Go ask what they think of the (still very mild) Extinction Rebellion.
Well put, comrade. Never paid attention to her even when she first came up, because that was my immediate impression. She’s the literal embodiment of white, middle-class European bourgeois sentiment.
As for mixing climate activism and the Ukraine war, I’ve actually seen quite a few speeches and contributions by climate-focused orgs on peace demonstrations outlining the absurd damage of militaries and this war specifically on the environment. It is possible to combine the two to make genuine anti-capitalist, anti-war points. She simply chooses not to.
Just look at their response to the “Last Generation” (misguided libs gluing themselves to streets to form human roadblocks; damaged some paintings). German politicans literally compared them to the fucking RAF lmao
She is the child of famous Swedish actor Svante Thunberg and opera singer Malena Ernman (who represented Sweden in Eurovision 2009), so when she got famous I suspected it was some kind of stunt pushed by her parents as, like with many rich and privileged people, they probably had plenty of contacts on their deck to be able to garner media attention. It doesn’t surprise me that she and her family would be the milquetoast white liberal Swedes that they are.
Do you mean she didn’t magically shoot to environmental stardom merely by the force of her ideas, oratory, and passion? Colour me greenwashed.
Celebrity business in Europe is basically hereditary at this point.
Wow , now it all seems clarified.
It was especially (if morbidly) fun to watch that development in postsocialist countries where actors and singers tried to gap the century of development of celebritism in just two decades. They had everything, but faster: faster money, faster careers, child actors, feudal-level nepotism, and of course faster drama on sex, drugs, marriages and divorces etc.
Honestly i’m pretty much surprised they didn’t incested themselves out of conventional DNA chains in single generation.
Fair point. I guess what I tried to say there is that the war (and specifically Ukraine continuing and eventually winning it) is rather tangential to fighting the climate crisis and an odd cause to put in your famous climate organisation behind uncritically. Imagine being so European that human lives are less relevant than “holding Russia accountable” on damages to local ecology.
Totally with you there. It is only tangentially related. I just wanted to point out that principled, anti-capitalist environmentalists can and actually have to be active in the peace movement. You can use the popularity of this issue to agitate against war. People do it. Thunberg just refuses to. But not because her main focus is climate change, but because she’s a dishonest, bourgeois white liberal.
I think she is not popular in the global South.
Southboi here, yeah she isn’t. Only people who even bother talking about her are terminally online fascists. Or just silly memes. At most the defence for her is against people demanding human rights abuses against her, bigotry, lies or stuff like that, not her movement. Sadly the internet is hosted in the North so we gotta learn these Swedish unpronounceable names to debunk imported nonsense conspiracy theories sometimes.
I am also from global South, I am not defending her anymore as she lacks a principle stance against imperialism and Nazism. She is same along Stephen King and others who are blind Russophobic.