I’ve been using Proton Mail and VPN for a while now, and I’m just wondering how everyone else feels about them. I have this kind of inherent alight distrust of them just because they seem like they offer a lot for free and kind of have a Big Tech vibe about them, but there’s nothing for me to really substantiate that distrust with, its mostly just a feeling. That being said, I do use their services as mentioned and they work pretty well, even on the free teir. So aside from that one instance where they gave that guy’s info to the feds, is there any reason not to trust them with my data?

  • Sha'ul@lemmy.ca
    32·
    1 year ago

    When Proton has a single app available on native F-Droid wirh zero anti-features, not from a different repository,conly then will I use their services. I don’t use anything from them now. No Protonmail, no VPN, I don’t use them.

    • fl42v@lemmy.ml
      10·
      1 year ago

      https://www.f-droid.org/en/packages/ch.protonvpn.android/

      Mail’s on Izzy, tho: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/ch.protonmail.android On the other hand, I don’t exactly see a reason to have a mail client on the phone at all. I mean web browsers do exist, and the app doesn’t seem to provide any additional benefits.

      Also, wdym by “single app”? If as in “at least one”, then VPN counts, and if as in “one app that incorporates mall + VPN + whatever else they come up with”… Why?

      P.S. I’m not agitating for or against using proton, just curious.

      • Sha'ul@lemmy.ca
        0·
        1 year ago

        I said native F-Droid repsitory. I also said with zero anti-features.

        In F-Droid settings, under Include anti-feature apps, unselect all or turn off all options, turn off other repositories like Izzy, then do a regular app search for Proton, there is nothing available in F-Droid

        • fl42v@lemmy.ml
          3·
          1 year ago

          The link I’ve added (VPN) is for native f-droid repo. As for anti-features, Screenshot_20231012-172624_Mull

          So that’s more about server side being proprietary than the app itself (also, mullvad’s app has the same anti-feature)

          • Sha'ul@lemmy.ca
            01·
            1 year ago

            Wether it’s due to server or client, Proton is not option.

            There are free Telegram clients, there is no way I will ever register with Telegram service.

            I am extra harsh of Proton because I reject the concept of proprietary security. They trumpet privacy and security but tell people to trust them for secuity, they can’t release server code, but they want everybody to trust that their servers don’t have a back up of account info like keys or backup access to account.

            I don’t use Signal for the same reason, only Molly, and I refuse to install Signal on computer.