I care about my privacy, though I like it’s UI. Is it really as bad as some say?
Stop using chromium.
Yea I don’t think it’s bad for privacy, just there are better options out there which get you the same privacy while also addressing other issues? Issues like Chromium, history of controversies and shady behaviour (crypto, replacing ads with their own), the business model, and issues with the CEO.
Instead, why not just use standard Firefox? The only downside I’ve heard is that the default settings don’t do what Brave does when you first install each browser, but that’s a weak argument considering we all modify the settings anyway. Someone should just outline which Firefox settings should be flipped to match default Brave, and we can be done with the weekly ‘Why not Brave’ discussions
I use Firefox as my daily browser, and run Mullvad browser when I need to be cautious with a task.
Any suggestions for someone who has multiple clients who solely support Chrome-only for their products so I have to do all my testing in Chrome (or Brave, Vivaldi, etc.)?
In some cases their apps straight up don’t function in Firefox or look substantially different and I’m not really allowed to bill for the time to address that.
Just use something vanilla like Ungoogled Chromium. Don’t use it for everything, only for working on projects that require it.
And it is because of these lousy developers that live inside a Google world that people don’t want to use Firefox.
Can’t, i need chromium extensions
Like what?
Well stuff like chromegle, there isn’t anything similar on Firefox, and there are just less extensions in general. Probably the dumbest reason but doesn’t change the fact that i need them
I’ll do it when Firefox gets a UI that looks modern.
Boy, that’s a hot take
Bruh you’re on Lemmy
Dark theme on most Linux distros looks clean with breeze or… whatever dark theme gnome users use. Quite nice, really.
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I take it you’re using Safari and not a Chromium based browser then?
I didn’t notice anything very different style wise when I switched. You can also add different themes like you can in chrome too.
YES, IT IS!
You should NOT trust Brave to not play fast and loose with your privacy. They already operate an advertising network (it operates on those stupid little BAT tokens) and they DO inject ads and affiliate links.
I strongly recommend Firefox1 or Librewolf.
1 - You must install plugins and apply user.js fixes yourself to properly harden Firefox completely against tracking; but this is doable.
Hey, I use Firefox but I’ve never heard of making edits to the user.js config. Could you point me in the direction of some information about this?
Check arkenfox: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/
This. They detail perfectly how you can properly harden Firefox with whichever settings you think fit your privacy needs best and even discuss the tradeoffs for each setting.
Someone on the last Brave thread suggested using Floorp and honestly I’ve been loving it. It comes with Tree Style Tabs support but I much I prefer Sidebery so I use Floorp’s built in sidebar with Sidebery instead. It works fantastic, and using Firefox color theming to tweak everything also works well.
f i r e f o x.
i mean cmon
It has an opt in option to sell ad space for some of its crypto. Some people just are offended that the option is even there.
You’re on Lemmy. Lemmy hates Brendan Eich. Take the top comments with a grain of salt.
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Folks know they’ll never be Google. Folks think they might just become crypto rich Someday Soon.
Brave is an alternative. There are better alternatives but its better than chrome or edge
Yes.
No, brave is not bad for your privacy. There has been some controversie but no dealbreaker so far imo.
If you’re on mobile I think brave has hands down the best UX (not necessarily UI but I like it a lot), on desktop I recommend firefox, which has a lot of custom themes to choose from (https://firefoxcss-store.github.io).
I personally like and use https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix
I like Firefox mostly because it’s cool to have engine competition. I mostly use the default dark theme. It looks good enough for me. I don’t look much at the top when browsing.
On android it’s still lagging behind the chromium competition. And having mismatched browsers isn’t great for syncing. So I just use Firefox on android too, good enough.
Tho, if miss matching wasn’t an issue, personally I think I would use Kiwi browser. It’s an open source chromium browser which supports chrome extensions.
It’s less about whether any individual thing they’ve done has been bad, more that they keep doing things and keep doing thm in sneaky ways. Every time something happened the CEO went on a marketing campaign and drummed up a bunch of new users to drown out the news story. They come across as shady, which gives the impression that it would take a relatively small sack of money for them to sell their users up the river.
Brave is better than some out of the box, but far from the best. I’d say Mull is better for mobile, which is a Firefox fork. It has a companion Android System Webview called Mulch.
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They don’t like the guy.
AFAIK no, but if someone has to say something about privacytests’s results (bad methodology? inconclusive?) I’m interested to know
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It isn’t. Brave doesn’t track you
Not at all.
The brave criticisms you see are mostly hot takes about crypto(icrypto jokes are super coool as of '20) but brave(foss) is as good or better than Firefox, IE or safari in terms of privacy.
Firefox can nearly match that privacy with their options, but if you like brave, easier to stick with that.
Part of it comes down to trust. I just don’t trust Brave Inc long term - it may well be a private browser now but I don’t trust that in to the future. I don’t trust a company that Peter Thiel invests in. I don’t trust a company that has already been shady and caught redirecting traffic secretly for referrer codes. But I also don’t trust Google or Microsoft either.
I trust Firefox and Mozilla. I don’t like that they are dependent on Google revenue but I trust that they’re open and transparent about what they do, and not motivated or compromised by a desire to maximise profits for their venture capitalist investors.
Ah, thank you, distrusting Peter thiel is at least tangentially relevant and certainly understandable(thiel-creepy brave-trustworthy?)
I would choose Firefox before ie or safari, but Firefox also sells personalized ads and tracks your keystrokes.
I like foss, and I like smaller companies. When another privacy-based browser comes along after brave sells its soul or gets too popular, I’ll support them too.
Until then, brave is doing pretty good privacy-wise, especially compared to the mainstream alts.
Firefox also sells personalized ads
Is this in reference to sponsored content on the new tab page?
and tracks your keystrokes.
Telemetry? Or something else?
Yes and yes, you got it
brave has already sold its soul to crypto companies
and it does nothing that firefox with extensions can’t do
Haha, crypto hate but at least equal browsing abilities with major browsers.
I totally agree.
do you think crypto is good or something
I like crypto, but I feel much more strongly about It being a ridiculous reason to not like a browser.
it has a lot of sketchy business practices and is a mediocre browser at best
You make a vague, boring claim with neither evidence nor sources.
So crypto hate and the author doesn’t personally like Brendan eich.
Oh and they will run ads if you let them, like Firefox, ie and Safari.
Not very damning, but thanks for reiterating the spirit of my original comment.
sponsored shortcuts is different than tampering with urls you enter to become referral links
Different routes, same end, sure.
