And I can’t even imagine it’s an intentional addition, it’s just become part of boiler plate legal documents here in the deep south.

The wiki on anti-BDS laws

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    Israel considers BDS an existential threat. I don’t think they even consider Hamas this deadly of a threat. I think it’s because BDS is a peaceful way of opposing Israel, which makes it hard for centrists and liberals to justify opposing.

    That’s why they need to smear the movement with claims of systemic antisemitism so it’s easier for the cowards to not support it despite it being literally “voting with your money,” something they so dogmatically believe in instead of picking up arms.

    Remember that Black Wall Street was destroyed because the residents were able to prosper despite the systemic discrimination against them - essentially destroyed for ‘peacefully resisting’ the Oppressor. Do everything the way they want, and you still get killed.

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      BDS is an existential threat because it threatens to popularize the truth that Israel is an apartheid state. Proponents of the occupation will cite the end of apartheid South Africa as a worst case scenario. Hamas is less so for the inverse reason that the violent opposition (as long as it’s manageable violence) provides reason for the occupation to continue

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        It’s crazy how the US has laws prohibiting the boycott of a foreign country’s products but not domestic products. If people can’t see that Palestinians are the ones with no power and every right to fight back, then I’m feeling hopeless.

        Discrimination argument. Proponents argue that boycotts of Israel is a form of discrimination because they target a particular group (Israelis) with the intent of inflicting economic harm on them.

        It’s literally how sanctions work lol. Like who do they think will be affected when the US prohibits business with China?

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          I’m convinced people, for the most part, really don’t understand the situation. When laid bare, it’s clear that Palestinians have every right to self defense in this situation. The strike was self defense. They have a right to rebel against their oppressors

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        It has to already be popularized/ing, I remember most of life loosely only hearing Israel’s side of the story (and almost no story at all, too). Now it’s like everybody cares and has opinions.

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      When the excesses of the settler colonial project are so egregious, the only way they can guarantee support is by painting even the most milquetoast consumer activism as indistinguishable from terrorism. When you want to kill children, anyone who says “hey, I don’t like how you killed those children, I don’t think I’ll buy your soda pop,” must be on the way to joining Hezbollah.

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    Just a reminder that while everyone flips shit about “CCP/Putin influence” these AIPAC mfers subvert our democracy on behalf of a foreign government everyday

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      Talk about Russian/Chinese influence ops that nobody has ever provided proof for: Reasonable centrist take.

      Talk about a large, well funded, publicly known organization that explicitly and openly lobbies for Israel: antisemitic conspiracy theory.

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    Lmao what can you even do as a powerless prole living in a genocidal nation state

    People always fucking say “how could the people let this happen” when discussing genocides of the past and the simple answer is that they were probably in the same fact situation we’re in right now (no power whatsoever)

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      The Nazi Seizure of Power is a somewhat obscure book, but it’s great because it tells the story of a single small town in Germany, and their experience before, during, and immediately after the Nazis came to power. Two things that stood out to me when reading it:

      1. Just how much folks in the KPD (and to be fair, at least in this town, the SPD) fought and fought hard against the Nazis before they took power.

      2. Once the Nazis did take power, if you tried to fight against them, if you’re caught you’re gone. Maybe jail. Maybe killed. But any resistance was dealt with pretty harshly.

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        You can beat the Nazi off the street - but once the libs hand them the keys to the tanks, it’s over.

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          Libs: we have preemptively given the nazis control of the military so we can concentrate on our continued efforts of performatively wringing our hands on Twitter and Facebook

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        We’re at the stage right now where you can lose your job for speaking out, so I’d say jail isn’t far behind on that track. Probably being labeled as a terrorist or some shit

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      Incorrect, the real answer is always “somehow (magically, after a lifetime of propaganda) I have been coached to identify with the oppressor rather than deal with dissonance of understanding it would absolutely be me under that boot today.”

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    My wife works for a small company that refuses to ship to countries that are extra evil. They usually pick the right ones. I’m waiting to hear if isntreal or Palestine ends up making the list. The boss is an “Interesting” guy

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      How the fuck do you make a list of “extra evil” countries and not start and end with the USA & Israel, this really destroys the credibility of the entire enterprise right out of the gate

      It would be very funny to one day order some parts for work and see a pop up explaining that despite being a domestic corporation due to beliefs they are choosing to describe as religious (GospelofStMarx.jpeg) they will only ship their products to China, Vietnam, Laos, and the DPRK though.

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        The real answer is he has a business to run. The hexbear answer is I hope he strokes out real soon because he makes my wife’s life hell for no reason, and his daughter is set to take over. She’s a lot more reasonable.

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          These are the types of people (Pelosi) that always somehow end up outliving the kids they kept promising they would eventually hand the reins over to next year

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            I just don’t get why his 75+ old hippie three heart attack having ass feels the need to come into the office to accomplish nothing and cause all kinds of slowdowns.

            Dude, you built a successful company. Go to your motherfucking lake house and I don’t know, watch Lawrence Welk reruns?

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              The boomers destroyed all the old gods, and only now, facing their own mortality, have they begun to realize just how terrifying the ramifications of the world they created truly are where there is no God, no masters, only a narcissistic black hole of a world where monetary instruments have been mistaken for having inherent value rather than serving as a placeholder in a very poorly thought out, completely broken false economy

              Oh you’re too good for the exact same (in reality, ludicrously better now than it was before) nursing home you let your own mother rot in for 20 years until she finally died, covered in her own piss? That’s crazy. What a crazy, insane plot twist absolutely no one could have ever foreseen. Ad nauseum.

              Edit: you’re confusing his business with a functional company when in reality, like everything else in the lives of these people it’s just yet another monument to his own self worth and ego

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                To be fair, he did build a decent company. He’s only been coming out of pocket the last couple of years. I’m not trying to defend capital in any way, I’m just saying my wife needs a job, and the product they make isn’t munitions for the war effort. In fact, he’s mostly refused to sell to countries like Saudi Arabia that could feasibly use his product to hurt people in a roundabout way. He even switched to making PPE stuff during pandemic, and gave a lot of it away.

                I agree with everything else you said though. I think a lot of boomers start out with decent intentions, but the world they grew up in taught them to be cynical, and it really sets in when the world around them changes, and they refuse to get out of the way of the next generation.

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                  “The world they built is so nakedly self destructive, so very objectively harmful even they are starting to feel the pain, but the mild, passing discomfort in admitting fault for the first time in their entire life would literally be the worst thing that has ever happened to them, so of course going down with the ship is a far more reasonable course of action than allowing another captain to step in and possibly steer away from the iceberg.”

                  Just one man’s opinion. I’m fascinated by them, really. I deal with boomers all day ever day, I feel compassion of course but I cannot help but privately wonder how none of them ever realize they did all of this to themselves, in a thousand different ways, all day every day their entire life, it all has led to this, as inevitably as the river meeting the sea.

                  I’m not like, an advocate for organized religion or anything but their enthusiasm for rejecting any and all belief systems in favor of the all encompassing infatuation that entire generation manages to have with themselves is just an endless wellspring of neverending trauma for everyone else forced to live around them.

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    Is that actually legal? Tenant rights (and anti-BDS legislation) vary state to state, but this seems particularly egregious.

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      Honestly I haven’t done the investigation to say. It very well could be an unenforceable part of their lease. But the south is notorious for insane anti-tenant legislation so I wouldn’t be surprised. My state famously banned the passing of rent control legislation so good luck running your local socialist candidate for mayor they can’t do anything even if they win

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      “Welcome to our show, ‘Wait - Is That Actually Even Legal,’ where we take you through a normal day of going about a normal day anywhere in the southern United States of America.”

      "With us today us our cohost, Steven Williamson, local tradesman, city council member, and union shop steward, whose entire family has been found tied up in the trunks of various cars at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, a fun fact which absolutely does not immediately also broadcast to any of our listeners from the South or Midwest exactly where Steven’s family, on average, falls under the Fitzpatrick scale quantifying non melanoma lifetime skin cancer risk. "

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      They probably figure it’s extremely unlikely to come up. Unless you have:

      1. A tenant who boycotts Israel
      2. And tells their landlord about it
      3. And the landlord wants to get rid of them
      4. And the landlord can’t come up with a more conventional excuse
      5. And the tenant knows their rights and has the resources to fight

      Nobody would likely challenge it.

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      One state (Arkansas) has a law that a rental doesn’t even have to be livable, so I believe this. Like literally,in Arkansas, you could rent a unit that has not heat, running water, or roof. And if you sign the lease, you have to pay

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      The point is to silence outspoken opposition. Silent, individualized product boycotts are virtually useless. Keeping the message that Israel is an apartheid state based on oppression out of the mainstream is the point of anti-BDS legislation

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      Imagine being a Tory P.M. and having the audacity to get in front of parliament and pretend to be outraged at the entirely predictable actions of a country that your own intelligence services founded within the bounds of your own living memory

      Like, no, the genocide is fine but calling me a vain , silly muppet with stupid hair is absolutely beyond the pale sir and I will have my satisfaction in this lifetime or the next

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    Once upon a time I wanted to start a coffee shop/bookstore back when I lived in Texas. Looked into the laws around starting business and it turns out that to own and operate a business in Texas you must swear fealty to Israel.

    Fuck that

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      It’s more about preventing people from actively taking part in the BDS movement than the specifics of a boycott. The goal is to dissuade people from vocally supporting Palestine and from taking part in activism efforts