Sounds familiar?

British Empire?

American Colonies?

Time is a circle.

  • CapnClenchJaw@lemmy.world
    55·
    vor 5 Monaten

    So, a Martian Congressional Republic? It does sound like something those damned dusters would pull.

    What next? The denizens of the asteroid belt calling for more rights and designating an Outer Planet Alliance, while a mysterious proto-molecule wreaks havoc on the Solar System?

  • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.org
    16·
    vor 5 Monaten

    80+% of earth’s surface is still completely uninhabited by humans.
    I’m talking about the sea floor, Antarctica, most of Australia, most of Siberia, the high mountain ranges, and the Sahara.
    It would be so much easier to build colonies there than on Mars.
    Even if our worst predictions about climate change come true, hell even if warming was twice as bad, they would still be much more hospitable to human life than Mars.

    We haven’t colonized those places, because it simply isn’t worth the effort.
    So why would it be worth the much, much bigger effort to settle on Mars?

    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      3·
      vor 5 Monaten

      Risk aversion alone makes it worth having 2 plants colonized. Putting all your eggs in one planet basket is poor long term risk management. But that’s more thinking in the hundreds of thousands and millions of years before that becomes relevant.

    • early_riser@lemmy.world
      1·
      vor 5 Monaten

      People desperate to live on their own terms may think it’s very much worth the effort. The pilgrims, buckle-headed weirdoes they were, probably thought as much when they boarded the Mayflower.

  • laranis@lemmy.zip
    8·
    vor 5 Monaten

    Only problem with this theory is there is no native population to exploit. Colonialism/empirism fails when you can’t subjugate anyone.

    • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」(he/him)@sh.itjust.worksOP
      61·
      vor 5 Monaten

      But the US didn’t really have any natives to exploit either, they basically genocided them. The exploitation was mostly done with enslaved Africans who they kidnapped and trafficked to the Americas.

      So all they need to do is just bring over a population to exploit.

      (Which I’m not saying is in anyway okay btw, fuck slavery.)

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
        2·
        vor 5 Monaten

        They did enslave indigenous people, they just found it harder to do. They knew the land, and if they escaped they’d just have to make it back to their own communities.

        The very first ship that returned to Europe from America had native slaves.

      • Stupendous@lemmy.world
        1·
        vor 5 Monaten

        By the time of the US, it was genocide after genocide. But before that when we called Americans different sorts of European, it was genocide and forced labor/slavery/some becoming human zoo enhibit

    • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
      21·
      vor 5 Monaten

      China has enough subjugated people at home, they will just bring someone to feel superior to

    • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」(he/him)@sh.itjust.worksOP
      5·
      vor 5 Monaten

      I actually don’t know enough curse words / insults.

      Maybe like: 伊隆係個死八婆 (Cantonese for “Elon is a dead bitch”, in Cantononese, they add “dead” in front of curseword nouns to make it more dramatic lol, its shall not be construed as an actual threat, legally speaking)

      Or maybe: 埃隆有小鸡鸡 (Mandarin for “Elon has a small dick” ? Idk I heard other Mandarin-speaking classmates say it.)

        • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」(he/him)@sh.itjust.worksOP
          4·
          vor 5 Monaten

          Cantonese vs Mandarin

          Different Sounds, Different Transliterations.

          Idk how those even work, but that’s just what the wikipedia says.

          The reverse transliteration also has differences.

          Like…

          A Mainlander and a Hong Konger also have different name transliterations.

          黃家駒 is “Wong Ka Kui” in Hong Kong, but if he had been a Mainlander, it’d be “Huang Jiaju”.

          Heck, even Taiwan use different transliterations, even tho its the same Mandarin as Mainland, like Tsai ing-wen would be Cai Yingwen, if she was a Mainlander

    • faintwhenfree@lemmus.orgEnglish
      2·
      vor 5 Monaten

      Yeah but in expanse it’s implied global government through UN was formed first and then the colonies. So it wasn’t a single country’s colony.

      • reddit_sux@lemmy.world
        1·
        vor 5 Monaten

        I have just seen the tv series and MRCN was very similar to CCP. Probably got confused since I didn’t know the lore.

  • webp@mander.xyz
    3·
    vor 5 Monaten

    But there is not much on Mars. With the new world, there were tons of resources to steal and make wealth off of.

  • flandish@lemmy.world
    2·
    vor 5 Monaten

    and after a while a regime change leaves an ousted guy running to mars to exile and then use its labor forces as cheap labor for american capitalists who then attempt to pretend mars was never chinese anyway.