Real anarchists block hexbear 😤
I constantly hear stuff from literally every other instance about how people get banned from Hexbear and .ml for “no reason” or just having dissenting viewpoints, how they hate being surrounded by “tankies”, etc. etc.
I’m not an ML. I lean more libertarian socialist, am willing to engage in electoralism for the purpose of harm reduction, and hold many other views that do not align with the consensus of users on the “tankie” instances.
I’ve been commenting 'round these parts since I joined lemmy. I have posted many dissenting/critical views. I’ve had good conversations, enjoy the memes and humor, and feel comraderie and enjoy giving and receiving critical support to and from my comrades.
Idk. I haven’t been banned & I like y’all
It’s always projection with these people, they claim that Hexbear censors any opinion that goes against the “hivemind” or whatever, but also make sure they completely block the instance and never actually have to interact with us. They talk about us but never actually to us, because engaging with us in good faith forces them to realise we are just regular people like them and not the scary internet monsters they’ve built up in their heads.
says hateful and terrible things
Gets removed
how dare they censor me!
Don’t forget the classic
Comes in with a superiority complex, talks down to people
Gets talked down to in return
How dare they be so rude to me!
i look at it like this: we all share the same end goal we just have different methodologies and timeframes on how to get there and there’s not enough of us to bother arguing over what will likely be a weird hybrid synthesis of things we can’t even predict yet.
anyone that builds their entire identity around sectarianism just wants to have a sub-culture to hang out in
100% this. I first started reading about anarchism and then stumbling across the chapo podcast and then the subreddit I was exposed to lots of Marx and Lenin quotes that really hit hard. I read capital and state and revolution first and that brought me to the immortal science of Marxist-Leninism. I don’t want to discourage other comrades from learning more and will always have the anarchist spirit I wish people that claim to be anarchists would stop whining about stupid shit online and go help their local Food Not Bombs or equivalent and shut the fuck up already.
We don’t have TIME for this and if we are serious about our cause we know we can’t sit around fighting over petty sectarian grievances and get our shit together because these fuckers are committing ecocide to power a chatbot that hallucinates.
Yeah I agree with this. While I choose to spend my online time in some generally lefty spaces, I find that a lot of the folks that I share those spaces with are chronically online and seem to stay online. I rarely encounter them in the real world in real lefty spaces.
As a rule, I don’t discuss my real-life action on the internet, but I can say that real, successful organizing takes a coalition of people of all persuasions from all walks of life. If you’re doing it right, you should find yourself alongside people you might otherwise loathe.
Without saying too much, I’m currently working alongside some absolute fascist sympathizers, but we are united against a common capitalist adversary. We are stronger together than we are apart, and quibbling over bullshit is how the capitalists win.
We can play sectarian games when there’s time to play sectarian games.
Edit: Don’t want to come off like I think I’m some mega skilled organizer or that I’m somehow righteous for doing what I do or that I’m the Gnome Gods gift to hexbear. Just pointing out the importance of the “collective” part of “collective action”. Anyways, I’m just a schmuckin’ gnome at the end of the day, so probably best not pay me much mind.
yeah this may be the last shot we are going to have to take with and roll with the synthesis that results from it, doing our best to direct it. there may be no vanguard party, or there may be dozens of small ones. libertarian socialism may take root in the ruins of a collapsed lawless nation. left populism may spring up everywhere, both voted in and through coups or revolts. fascism may have already run it’s course when this goes down, in a sort of inverse of the typical immune reaction.
in fact, WE may end up being the immune reaction but of human survival not capitalist preservation
there won’t be any time to argue about what works besides some unity of action and taking advantage of the moment (but i dunno)
Marx didn’t predict the collapse of the biosphere he was projecting the Victorian age assumption that there would be millennia of stable human civilization and resource extraction ahead
Almost as if the shitlibs are mostly spreading slander/exaggerating to exorbitant amounts
Comment contains too much nuance. Careful, you might get banned. /s
They’re the same people who get thrown out of bars and clubs for “no reason”
🥰
we put in an emote just for you after all
You can check the modlog lol. People always to “ahh they censored me!” And then you check and they were just saying a bunch of bad faith bullshit.
“Are you now, or have you ever been, a commenter in the Hexbear or Lemmygrad communities??”
We should have a “McCarthyism” space where we ask each other stupid questions in this format. Make the original Communist Party question look like a very uncreative bit.
“Hello I am an anarchist, let me explain to you why the state department is always correct”
Think about it, what organisation has done more to destroy states around the world than anyone else? That’s right, the CIA! They’re clearly an org that real anarchists should support.
I would like to subscribe to your completely independently funded newsletter.
The aUtHoRiTaRiAn tAnKiEs block instances that are straight up fash, to protect the marginalized members of their community.
Lemmy “anarchists” block instances for being aUtHoRiTaRiAn tAnKiEs, while siding with the fash.
We are not the same.
Internet anarchists make me embarrassed to be an anarchist
I am the only real anarchist on the fediverse because I wear a leather jacket everywhere. Everywhere.
Faux leather though right? Real anarchists support animal rights
It’s cotton. No rules.
Does it say PISSF****T or Fuck the World on it?
It has a patch that says T-shirt. No rules.
the anarchist, picturedFinally! There’s a distinct lack of real anarchists around here, I’m glad there’s someone who can tell people how it is actually done which, based on that conversation, seems to involve buddying up with some of the biggest fash pieces of shit on the fedverse. No wonder I’m an evil authoritarian tankie, I would’ve never thought that’s how real anarchists are supposed to act, but I guess the right wing’s authoritarianism isn’t as bad as tankie authoritarianism, I’m learning so much!
Is no one going to talk about how that guys name is Satans Maggoty Cum Fart?
You never ran into them before? They comment a lot and are very lib and annoying at times. Got into a few arguments with them before I realized it was not worth it at all.
Pretty sure they’re just a troll account (like, genuinely a troll), but they are lemmy.world and a lot of Hexbear users never see .worlders like we do on .ml.
Ahhhh, that checks out. I was beginning to wonder.
Making me fucking grateful for it judging from this thread.
Pretty rich coming from a friggin’ owl
I will not be lectured by a gnome!
Hey! Don’t make fun of shawties!!
Why you always callin’ me shawty?? I’m taller than you!
Many moons ago a certain user might have chastized me for this very thing but, alas, my bit has been ruined because the comment was deleted when the account was purged. But memories aren’t so easily erased.
reddit ass shock lord name
They really embody the name in comment style, and seems to have kept it for piefed
Pretty normal user name id say tbh. Maybe if it was Stalin’s maggoty cum fart it could be weird but that’s just a line people don’t cross, of course.
These two posters in particular are responsible for a massive proportion of this type of bullshit. Good thing we only allow hyperreal, imaginary, and metaphysical anarchists here.
Yes, and I, course, am hexbear’s resident hyperreal champion anarchist, as I am the only one who recognizes and pays fealty to those beings which possess true dominion over this and all other planes of existence. Bow before your true gods, ye infinitesimal tankies!
For every hexbear reply I’ve received where the respondent willfully misinterpreted my comment and flew off the handle, I’ve had probably 100 thoughtful and insightful replies that facilitated meaningful discourse.
POST HOG
Post hog ergo propter hog.
Why do you assume it’s a handle? What if it was an, uh, closet? Or a rocket? Crocket?
I don’t get it. Some people seem really keen on arguing what their ideology is and why it’s the best one, but what have they actually done?
I’ve known families whose members rose through ranks and had their names published by the local newspapers for being exemplary Cadres, for their contributions towards building socialism and they have never boasted as much as Westerners do. If I’m honest this attitude seems very dishonorable and keyboard warrior like. Personally I think we’d do a lot more good if we built something and lead by example instead of constantly punching down, but perhaps this attitude is incompatible with Western culture and really as an outsider I shouldn’t lecture you om what you should do, but I am offering simply a different perspective.
I have no desire or interest in debating who is superior. I’ve never seen it accomplish anything personally.
as an outsider I shouldn’t lecture you on what you should do
Frankly as an insider I think this qualifies you to do just that
Fun Fact: that poster is banned from Blahaj for being a transphobe
You don’t understand, I’m a real enjoyer of the aesthetics. Like real real; seriously!
I do not miss kolanaki
