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tweet by Johann Hari: The core of addiction is not wanting to be present in life, because pour life is too painful a place to be. This is why imposing more pain or punishment on a person with an addiction problem actually makes their addiction worse.

  • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yup. It’s escapism. Anything to not have to be myself, even if for just a very short while.

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      A lot of people are in denial about how often they engage in escapism. Whether it’s alcohol, binge watching, reading, gaming, porn or their phone.

      Personally I swapped drugs for podcasts, audiobooks, and audio dramas (shout out to BBC sounds). Helps drown out all the negative thoughts.

      Not sure if that’s a good idea either, tbh. But I’m still here, so maybe that’s something.

      Hope you’re able to get in a better place so you feel less need to escape from life. Not happy, happiness is overrated. But just that you want to live, experience your life, and what happens next.

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        This is why ADHD is so hard to diagnose and treat in adults. You have found your coping mechanisms, it’s never about escapism or denial.

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          It took me a long time to realize I was doing exactly that, self-medicating for adhd. Even a small dose of proper medication has kept me off everything else. Too bad it cost hundreds of dollars and took months, once realized. Not to mention fighting the stigma of an addict

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            If you’re taking Vyvanse, they just released a generic version that’s much cheaper. You might have to ask your doctor to mark that a generic can be substituted.

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            A lot of doctors even are starting to recommend not medicating as that can disrupt your coping mechanisms and make your issues worse in some cases.

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              I feel like those doctors must not have much of a clue what having ADHD is like - my coping mechanisms keep me from killing myself, sure, but they do sweet fuck all to help me get my laundry done…

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                Consider replacing your washer with a fire pit. You’ll find dealing with your laundry less of a chore, because fire.

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                Yep so the doctor would recommend a service to do your laundry, leaves you more “me time” to handle the stress. Taking medication has side effects as well, very few of them are fun. My kid hasn’t gained a pound in a year since starting his medication. Sure it helps him focus, but he’s now falling behind on his growth and has trouble sleeping through the night. You’re trading problems for other problems. Medication is not some magic fix all, that’s pure ignorance.

                It’s funny that you think a doctor knows less than you…….

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                  It’s funny that you think a doctor knows less than you…….

                  A lot of doctors disagree with other doctors. Lots of them straight up don’t believe in ADHD, or adult ADHD in particular. Hell yes I believe I know more than some random random doctor about my own personal experiences, especially if the doctor refuses to acknowledge established medical science.

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                    Like you are now with giving people side effects instead of working with them?

                    The established medical science is to try to figure out why the person needs to cope more or need medicine, most symptoms of ADHD can actually be resolved by dealing with issues at home, better diet, more accommodations. Forcing other peoples ideas of what normal is and medicating someone until they fit it, isn’t what any doctor recommends.

                    Unless they care more about money from prescriptions than actually helping someone and dealing with the root causes.

                    Now not everyone can have their home life improved and would require medicine, but that’s not saying that things couldn’t also be better without medicine.

                    Sounds like you need to do some research and get more than one doctors opinion here.

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                But maybe not doing laundry as often is better than feeling like an emotionless zombie… medication affects people differently. Maybe “just” coping and surviving is better than being “normal” and productive for some people.

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                  That trope needs to die. Medication doesn’t make me feel like a zombie at all. Not even a little bit. I’d happily take more of my liver could deal with it.

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          I understand what you mean, but some people’s lives are very shitty, so I feel it’s a stretch to say it’s never escapism, even among those who have ADHD.

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            Fair I shouldn’t be so absolute, but taking away those coping mechanisms and replacing them with medication or other things can make it worse. Some people just need more “escapes” than others.

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        I just want to add a plus one for audio dramas, if which the BBC has some great ones, especially some old horror series. Sure, it’s not exactly a replacement, but every little bit helps. I’ve been clean of anything not proscribed for about six months!

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          Yeah.

          One of the huge advantages for me is that, unlike tv/movies/gaming, you’re not exposing yourself to light from a screen.

          That means you can distract yourself, but there’s also a relatively high chance you actually fall asleep. Light from a screen really messes up your sleep schedule.

          IME also better than trying to sleep, and negative thoughts keeping you awake in the dark.