• pyre@lemmy.world
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    the senate could be 98 Dems to 2 Republicans and the Dems would still go “they’re not letting us pass anything that would help you 🤷”

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    the repubs have drawn us into the last three wars. the head of the repubs is joking about running a third term. he’s sending federal agents into cities. he’s turning other countries away from the dollar.

    the last dem presidents might be too friendly with corporations, but it’s them or losing America.

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    Not only will they not pass anything even remotely progressive they will completely fail to prosecute anyone who committed a crime, fail to revert any of the damage, and will beg for forgiveness from the right by offering infinite concessions

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      More likely than not, they’ll become complicit in much of the Republican criminal enterprise by inertia. Then, their inability to roll back any of the deeply unpopular Republican positions will tank their own popularity. And finally, Republicans will come roaring back into office to be the Enthusiastic Fascist Party rather than the Reluctant Fascist Party.

      But hey, DON’T SAY ANY OF THIS TOO LOUDLY. If people hear you casting dispersion on the liberal party, they might become sad. And if they become sad, they might not Vote Blue No Matter Who. And if they don’t Vote Blue, Republicans will win. And then Republican Fascism will be YOUR FAULT!

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        I started tagging peoples usernames with different levels of shitlib from like baby shitlib to ultra shitlib and holy fuck do those people comment a lot. it’s basically a wall of green usertags on basically every political post.

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          I mean, I see you guys posting from here. And I’ll admit, after my experience with Hexbear, I’d rather be in the shitlib instance heckling my leftism with impunity than in the leftist instance getting yelled at / banned by the admins for defending DSA or whatever.

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    It’s super messed up but If they don’t pass anything that’d still be an improvement compared to congress now.

    I really hope they do more than nothing though.

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    I look forward to hearing all their “olive branching” and trying to reach across the aisle and proceed to GET NOTHING DONE WHILE STILL MANAGING TO SUCK OFF THE PEDO PROTECTOR PARTY.

    We do not want ANY olive branches. They proved who they are. Everything they ask for needs to be shot down immediately (aka vote no), just like they always do. Put them in the corner, shame every one of them that keeps their job.

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          As if ability to win has been a major concern for the last decade of DNC candidates

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            Whether you want to admit it or not, Biden was actually the best candidate strategically, which was proven right. It says more about the US people that we all want to believe.

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              If it wasn’t for Covid, Biden wouldn’t have stood a chance. Then Biden completely fucked over 2024. He was not the best candidate.

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                I can do speculations too, if his health wouldn’t suddenly deteriorate, he would crush in 2024, but since he wasn’t an actual final candidate, we couldn’t tell, just as we can’t tell what would outcome of the previous be if not for covid.
                In the end his win record was 1/1 which is kind of what you want from a candidate.

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                  Except we can tell. He was the only candidate that polled even worse than Kamala. And you’re delusional if you think his health decline was sudden.

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              Lol, no he wasn’t. A soggy potato could have won that election, but the DNC insisted on choosing a candidate who would do such a bad job on power that Trump might as well have won. To the point that a lot of liberals have forgotten that the Biden administration even happened

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                Well yeah, you have a theory, and whatever supports it is true because duh, and whatever contradicts it actually supports it because your opponents are all idiots.
                It’s a nice way to feel good about yourself, but terrible way to ground yourself in reality.

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      They proved who they are.

      So did the Democrats. Over and over again. You’re not going to get anything you’re asking for and you’re delusional if you expect otherwise. Their job is to calm people down so we can ratchet towards fascism again in a few years.

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      Anything less than burning through the Epstein list and arresting every single one of them, while making the biggest effort they can to undo everything that’s happened during the Trump terms should not be accepted

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      There are a lot of Democrats that are not in any way progressive. For domestic issues there will always be a few that the GOP can count on to dissent and break the Democrat majority. For isreal-related there will be dozens beholden to AIPAC who will vote however the Israeli government wants.

      This is the secondary danger of Trump being terrible: democratic party doesn’t have to actually change or improve to win. They just have to exist.

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      They pulled the olive branch from the dime, you better not offer up another fucking olive branch Dems. (but we all know you will because you still think unhinged MAGA voters will somehow come around)

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        (but we all know you will because you still think unhinged MAGA voters will somehow come around)

        That’s not why. Not really. It’s because leftwing populism is contrary to the desires of the oligarchs (campaign donors / etc) who own them, while rightwing populism is either acceptable or more often actually beneficial.

        Republican / Democrat is offense / defense for the same team owners.

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            Controlled opposition is AOC / Bernie / increasingly-looking-like Zohran. Most Dems don’t even pretend to be effective opposition, unless you’re 50+ and think a strongly worded letter counts as opposition.

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              I think you are misunderstanding the term. You’re referencing actual opposition. Schumer/Jeffries and the majority of the rest of the party are opposition controlled by the oligarchs.

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                You think constantly reaffirming Israel’s right to exist, voting to continue funding its existence and armament, and using terms like “the Netanyahu government” instead of demanding an end to the entire rotten ethnostate apartheid colonial project qualifies as “opposition”?

                If so, the only one misunderstanding the term “opposition” is you.

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    I’ll take “fail to pass anything progressive” over “actively try to destroy the country with every bill” any day.

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        Could just stop letting them win altogether and just support progressive candidates in primaries, but I got sick of explaining this and just left the country. I’ll be back if/when people figure out “let the republicans win” is not “fixing the democrats”.

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          Could just stop letting them win altogether

          I don’t think this is a question of “letting them win”. Ds and Rs are the two wings of Capital. And like any good capitalist enterprise, the underlings must be made to fight it out to exhaustion in order for the master to maintain control.

          If Dems ever actually obtained an FDR-style enduring majority, the capital class would have to bifricate the party in order to keep any populist movements held in check one against the other.

          I got sick of explaining this and just left the country

          Given what’s been going down in damned near every major city in the country with ICE, I can hardly blame you. America’s going to be drowning in blood before too long if shit keeps up the way it has been going. We’re already treating civilians in Minneapolis like they’re Turks or Egyptians. How long until we start treating them like Iraqis or Afghanis… or Iranians or Gazans?

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    what’s the polymarket bet sorry, “prediction” for “there is not going to be an election in november”

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    The Democrats are losers. They will never do anything. Every opportunity that they have is wasted. Don’t expect them to do anything. All those old 80 year Dems are just sitting on a pile of money, they don’t give a fuck about anything the right does

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      some fuckstick will appear that blocks any kinda of meaningful progress, same story from lieberman to manchin, rinse and repeat

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      What do you mean?! They allow us to pretend our country is merely dysfunctional instead of nakedly evil, thereby absolving us of any serious mandate to take action to protect our fellow man!

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    This is a screenshot of a betting app. You can easily influence these numbers with large bets. This is just viral marketing masquerading as hopium

    It’s not actually a poll or anything real…

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    Until we have a meaningful difference between Red and Blue, it will be more bullshit for longer. Let’s have a clear-out and swing away from ultrconservatism like NY has. Please!

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    They won’t push past the line of “normalcy” which is the same useless line we crossed on the way here. Fucking hell.

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      If they don’t impeach and prosecute with impunity, the whole effort is wasted. Everyone of relevance to the current administration needs to end up in jail by 2028. That’s what we’re voting for in November.

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        They could impeach, but there is no universe where he gets convicted in the Senate. They won’t ever have enough votes for that. He could literally rape and murder a child on live TV and Republicans would just say “ehh, they were probably a liberal anyway so they deserve it.”

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      They won’t push past the line of “normalcy”

      It might not be an issue if the sitting party refuses to release the reins of power.

      So much of the current political system works because the parties are joined at the hip. But as Trump leads the federal government into increasingly fascist forms, the leadership demonstrates itself significantly less willing to just go-along get-along with the historic Reagan Era neoliberal order.

      Why relinquish your Congressional majority if Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries will let you keep it? Why abide by the legislative branch at all if you’ve got Palantir running the Treasury and Google/Microsoft running the Pentagon?

      Even in bright blue states like Minnesota, the response to outright fascist takeover at the highest levels of government is to raise your fist in defiance and then… give up on your reelection campaign for governor.

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    Even if the Dems do get control of the Senate there’s still the matter of the filibuster unless they have 60+ seats which seems unlikely. Of course they could do away with the filibuster, but that also seems unlikely.