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Today we’re introducing a free built-in VPN in Firefox, a new IP-protection feature designed to keep you even more private while you browse. We’re star
  • unexposedhazard
    142·
    6 days ago

    There are no public VPNs you can “trust” and saying anything else is an attempt at tricking people.

    • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      5·
      6 days ago

      Not all free VPNs are “bad.” It’s VPNs that make money off the users’ data that are bad.

      For example, Proton sells VPN use but they also let you use it for free, albeit with limitations. There’s nothing wrong with the free product that isn’t also wrong with the paid one — some people don’t like Proton for a few reasons, and those reasons are valid either way.

      Mozilla is doing the same thing, or at least the VPN business model is the same.

      I’m not saying trust them blindly, I’m saying look into it and be open to being wrong and learning.

      • unexposedhazard
        32·
        6 days ago

        Didnt say anything about “bad” just that they arent trustworthy.

        I’m not saying trust them blindly, I’m saying look into it and be open to being wrong and learning.

        There is no way to look into it, thats the issue. No VPNs can be trusted, at all, ever. You can either blindly trust them or not trust them, because you can never actually know what they do on their end.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      6 days ago

      Your interpretation is wrong in a subtle way: this is 50 GB free of a “VPN” (seems more like a proxy) on Mozilla’s Fastly’s infra, whereas Mozilla VPN uses Mullvad’s infra (and is a real VPN).

  • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    5·
    5 days ago

    Its clear they are trying to attack normal users that dont care what us nerds care about, and frankly, that is fine with me. If they gain market share it makes firefox and its forks more useable on the web. If you care about these thing just use a fork like Librewolf .

    Here come the down votes…

  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    5 days ago

    So instead of every ISP watching your traffic, a few VPN companies do it. Consolidating the sources of information is a terrible idea.

    • texture@lemmy.world
      5·
      5 days ago

      just saying there is no pleasing us, while being displeased enough to make that comment.

      pretty rude tbh

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    3·
    6 days ago

    They seem very confused. They say it’s available for everyone with one click and they also say it’s rolling out gradually.

    If you’re a technical user and you don’t have it, does that mean they’re testing it on the rubes first? If so, what does that say about their intentions?

    • Vincent@feddit.nl
      2·
      6 days ago

      I see

      Turn it on in Firefox with a single click.

      but that doesn’t say it’s available to everyone?

        • Vincent@feddit.nl
          1·
          5 days ago

          Right, presumably because it’s not available to everyone yet, as they say in the post?

          • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1·
            4 days ago

            And yet, that contradicts the claims they also make that it’s available to everyone. Even the topic title, which, depending on how you access Lemmy, might show right above this text (at least that’s how it appears for me).

            So they announced a feature that isn’t available to everyone, and they do say that, but they also say it is. So why say anything at all? Or say it when it is available?

            • Vincent@feddit.nl
              1·
              4 days ago

              Can you quote the exact line that you interpret as saying that it’s available to everyone? Because again, I don’t see it. The title I see is “A free VPN you can trust, now built into Firefox”, i.e. with no mention of “everyone”.

              Usually, they just say it’s rolling out, because some people will be getting it (i.e. they can’t say nothing), but they don’t know when everybody will yet, because that depends on how well the rollout to the first people goes.

  • KiwiTB@lemmy.world
    1111·
    6 days ago

    From the organisation who stopped making a good browser and instead made a bloated slop machine.

    • TachyonTele@piefed.socialEnglish
      261·
      6 days ago

      You can turn the ai off with a click. That’s hardly bloated. Not that it’s good it’s there at all, but still.

      • XLE@piefed.socialEnglish
        77·
        6 days ago

        Yeah, it’s “only” a click and it’s “only” one thing (that still sits on your computer, unwanted and unneeded and a waste of Mozilla’s development and upkeep resources).

        Only AI tab groups and an AI sidebar…

        …and an AI search engine…

        …and ads disguised as news…

        …and ads disguised as frequently visited sites…

        …and sponsored weather…

        …and ads in the URL bar…

        …and “privacy preserving advertisement data collection”…

        …and a freaking built-in VPN a la Opera.

        Tell me, when will you allow us to start calling it bloat?