• WagnasT@piefed.world
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    15 days ago

    They really don’t care what you do with your power, they absolutely do not give a shit what you do. They just need the info to estimate the demand for infrastructure at the time they turn the power on, if you are an outlier they don’t really care as long as you don’t create problems for the system.

    60A service
    40kW to resistance-heat

    Lol, good luck with that.

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      14 days ago

      They just need the info to estimate the demand for infrastructure at the time they turn the power on

      But that’s exactly what the previous commenter was getting at.

      The square footage is completely useless for that estimate.

      They need a load value in Ampere and that is depending not on size but on other factors that the builder of the home or the home owner is much better qualified to estimate than the local supplier is.

      And the electric company that later actually sells you the electricity doesn’t even need to know the load value of the house, but only the address and meter ID.

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        14 days ago

        The square footage is incredibly useful for estimating the average demand for similar sized units. They are almost always going to have the same basic appliances and heating and cooling, or close enough that it averages out. The demand for a larger unit will be more than for a smaller unit, mostly because they will need a larger HVAC or heater but also because there are more rooms, occupants, stuff plugged in. So we establish an average demand profile for homes of similar size groups.

        And the electric company that later actually sells you the electricity doesn’t even need to know the load value of the house, but only the address and meter ID.

        They absolutely need to know the demand of each unit, if another home off the same feed is built later or upgrades their service they need to know if the existing capacity is sufficient or if components need to be upgraded.

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          14 days ago

          They absolutely need to know the demand of each unit, if another home off the same feed is built later or upgrades their service they need to know if the existing capacity is sufficient or if components need to be upgraded.

          No they don’t.

          This information is only relevant for the local provider that physically connects to your home, not for the company selling you the elecricity.

          But I increasingly get the feeling that you don’t have a free electricity consumer market in the US?
          That would actually come as a surprise to me, but would explain some of the comprehension problems that l have seen and experienced myself in this thread.

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            14 days ago

            Ah, that’s the disconnect. Typically the electric company is the local provider here. Some provide service all the way from generating stations, some broker power contracts from neighboring generating stations but you typically only have one company to buy power from and they are the ones that build the infrastructure to the home. My utility lets you buy power from partnered solar farms, that solar farm would not have any idea what my home size is, but the utility that physically runs the power cables to my house sure does.

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              Ok, so that’s really a major difference here…

              In the EU we have heavily liberated energy markets, which let me choose between dozens of different electricity suppliers, each with its own specific value proposition.
              In many cases this means that they just compete with each other to deliver the lowest price, but there are also specialized suppliers, e.g. offering custom time or volume based rates.
              In my case it is a supplier that is a Greenpeace-originated consumer-owned cooperative (yes, I am one of the owners of the company supplying me with electricity:-) ), specializing in regenerative energy.

              These supply companies then pay a part of their revenue to the local providers, reimbursing them for the use of their physical infrastructure.