• Firipu@startrek.website
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    10 months ago

    Fuck texting like a Neanderthal. Use a modern, and secure app to communicate. WhatsApp as a bottom of the barrel thing (99% of society outside of the US is on it, so it’s the de facto standard) , signal or better if you can.

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      10 months ago

      Nothing makes me smirk like the rest of the world bragging to Americans that they use Facebook to text. Yeah guys, you nailed it. Big win. We’re over here using standard protocols like rubes. I’m sure you get all kinds of security from that free app from Mr Zuckerberg. lol

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        10 months ago

        I’m all for discrediting Facebook services for better alternatives, but Whatsapp employs End to End encryption by default, while SMS is readable from your ISP and anyone intercepting your conversation.

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            10 months ago

            Facebook messenger has never claimed to be e2e encrypted

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              “Facebook Messenger offers end-to-end encryption, meaning chats between two users will be visible only on users’ phones and aren’t readable by Facebook or any government entity that makes a legal request to the company. But the option is available only to people using the Messenger app on mobile devices, and messages are encrypted only after users select the option to mark chats as “secret.””

              From their linked article.

              It’s insane to only have E2EE as an opt in feature.

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                10 months ago

                I guess it’s because they added it later so they can claim to have it while still being able to datamine the average user. Not that insane given that it’s Facebook. I’d say what’s insane is that’s the same as what Telegram does and some people think that’s secure!

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                10 months ago

                The comment I replied to wasn’t

                Fbook Messenger, which is also supposed to be E2EE

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            10 months ago

            When you send sms, you might as well be sending smoke signals. Not as if sms is secure in any modern sense of the word…

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          Facebook makes money selling data for advertising. They don’t host and maintain what’s app for the good of mankind. every single thing you send on the app is being harvested for data and you know it. It is decrypted at each end and hovered up for sale to the highest bidder.

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            10 months ago

            Facebook makes money mainly from advertising, yes, which can be done also on Whatsapp and will be in the future.

            While they can still harvest some data from Whatsapp even if conversations are encrypted, my point was that they have no way to read the content of messages you send.

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            I don’t use Facebook and neither should you. Whatsapp is their only decent product, probably because it was bought when it was already decent.

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        10 months ago

        You guys use iMessage, a proprietary app from an other big tech company and use it to dismiss the other half of the population.

        You guys aren’t much better.

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          10 months ago

          Ahh yes, iphones, the only devices capable of SMS. /s I guarantee they’re not an iphone owner. They used the word “protocol” and “rubes”. Iphone owners don’t know that non-imessage texting is called SMS.

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      10 months ago

      I really don’t care about security of a conversation that goes like:

      “hey wanna hang out on Sunday?”

      “Sure, sounds fun, let’s meet at xxx at yyy pm.”