I guess to me it’s not clear what she means by Male Socialization. I haven’t heard transphobic talking points about male socialization. Tbh my “male socialization” kinda totally fucked my brain up and made me suppress a lot of natural feminine affectations. I mean I guess the alternative explanation is that I have some natural tendency towards male coded body language… but I kinda find this doubtful because throughout my life I was ALWAYS very aware of my feminine affectation and actively beat those out of me due to male socialization. So yeah I don’t really get what she’s saying about that
Male socialization rhetoric is just a way for terfs to call you “still a man” but not outright say it. Maybe you haven’t seen bigots say that, but I have.
Oh interesting. Yeah I’m sure it makes sense in context. But to me my socialization was outside of my control, but clearly socialization may explain certain behaviors, mannerisms, etc, but obviously socialization doesn’t determine gender anyway. An AFAB person could be socialized as a male for one reason or another and end up still a cis woman, but have more ““masculine”” mannerisms or behaviors or something.
socialization as a concept is a real enough thing. ‘male socialization’ and ‘female socialization’ as immutable constructs applying broadly and equally across humanity is crackpot terf shit.
I guess to me it’s not clear what she means by Male Socialization. I haven’t heard transphobic talking points about male socialization. Tbh my “male socialization” kinda totally fucked my brain up and made me suppress a lot of natural feminine affectations. I mean I guess the alternative explanation is that I have some natural tendency towards male coded body language… but I kinda find this doubtful because throughout my life I was ALWAYS very aware of my feminine affectation and actively beat those out of me due to male socialization. So yeah I don’t really get what she’s saying about that
Male socialization rhetoric is just a way for terfs to call you “still a man” but not outright say it. Maybe you haven’t seen bigots say that, but I have.
Oh interesting. Yeah I’m sure it makes sense in context. But to me my socialization was outside of my control, but clearly socialization may explain certain behaviors, mannerisms, etc, but obviously socialization doesn’t determine gender anyway. An AFAB person could be socialized as a male for one reason or another and end up still a cis woman, but have more ““masculine”” mannerisms or behaviors or something.
socialization as a concept is a real enough thing. ‘male socialization’ and ‘female socialization’ as immutable constructs applying broadly and equally across humanity is crackpot terf shit.
Yeah 100%
Same, talk about flattening an entire life experience. And these freaks couldn’t define what male and female socialization even means.