• CyberEgg
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    5 months ago

    Honestly, this is why using only a left-right axis to describe politics is inadequate. If the term wasn’t prestressed, BSW would be literally National Socialist (but please don’t use that term, because, you know, Hitler, and she’s far from that).

    Oh and BSW being a SED clone is regarding Wagenknecht being a SED politician and her very close ties into the Kremlin.

    That’s oversimplifying if I’ve ever seen oversimplifying. To the point of disinformation. Wagenknecht wasn’t allowed to study because she clashed with the regime, was accused of a hunger strike during military training and joined SED *half a year before the Wall fell with the intention of reforming it. And licking Putin’s boots is not enough to be an SED clone.

    Dude, get your facts straight or shut it.

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        5 months ago

        Lol. I never said National Socialist was left, I said BSW is not left. It is not considered left in the german political landscape (except by right wing nutjobs like AfD).

        I got my political knowledge straight, you’re making stuff up.

        BSW has too many positions that are not considered left (their stance towards migration alone is all but left). And where are it’s authoritarian positions?

        You’re throwing around a lot of terms that don’t mean what you think they mean.

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            5 months ago

            Instead of insinuating stuff, you could also bring arguments. But I guess you have none. It shows.

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                5 months ago

                You bring no arguments I could ignore. You only make assumptions and claims.

                How do you even come to the conclusion BSW was authoritarian (that describes the use of (or desire to reach) a strong central power the rejection of political plurality) or left wing (which is defined by striving for societal progress and especially equal rights and equal chances for everyone, which BSW denies migrants).

                and mostly a east Germany phenomenon.

                That is something you never brought up before. What point do you think you make with this phenomenon?

                they will probably sit left from the view of the podium.

                Where you sit usually concurs with your political positions, but does not define it.

                If we’d take the Horseshoe theory again

                Why should we, since it’s debunked?

                Another takeaway is that they are absolutely a threat to democracy,

                Again something you claimed but never supported with anything.

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                    5 months ago

                    You are just digging a bigger hole with every comment, adding more inconsequential arguments.

                    Your original claim was that they are an SED clone. Which is just not true. That would also not make sense, given that we live in a vastly different time than the original Cold War era.

                    BSW is a party that, for the moment, has way more presence in political talk shows than it does substance. They have a prominent ex-Linke face, they have ex-Linke members, but they also have nationalist and socially regressive views. Calling them left-wing is thus not particularly appropriate either.

                    And just like CyberEgg, I absolutely don’t understand why you bring in all the arguments that don’t do anything for your case. E.g: Yes, BSW is popular in Eastern Germany. But that doesn’t mean they’re an SED clone or left-wing. It just means that a bunch of people in Eastern Germany voted for this weird cult.

                    And for the record, none of that means that either CyberEgg or I like BSW.