• jmcs
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    2 days ago

    If it looks like a nazi, walks like a nazi, and quacks xenophobic and racist shit like a nazi, what else would they be?

    • remon@ani.social
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      2 days ago

      Sure if by nazi you mean everyone you disagree with.

      We have an actually confirmed neo-nazi party to deal with, so these kind of ridiculous hyperboles aren’t helpful in the least.

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        12 hours ago

        BSW is politically 99% aligned with the “confirmed” Nazi party AfD, the only difference is that Wagenknecht hasn’t publicly defended Hitler yet (AFAIK).

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        2 days ago

        Leftism is “workers of the world unite” not “blue eyed blond german workers über alles”.

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          BTW where does the blue-eyed blond stereotype come from, it doesn’t seem to be the dominating type for most of Germany, and especially not south where reactionary and nazi stuff is most usual (not talking about former GDR now).

          Also, eh, about that and Russian communists of today - there’s a book by Ivan Yefremov, “Andromeda nebula”, sort of a future communist utopia. Its characters are described as being, due to all kinds of medical and sports good arrangements, generally beautiful and healthy by our measure. So every time you see an illustration or a indie game art or a small cartoon made by Russian commies after that book, you see plenty of blue-eyed blond people. Except the author himself specifically described them all being racially mixed to the extent of impossibility of guessing one’s ancestors’ parts of the planet from looks. Of the main characters only one is described as having blue eyes, and that’s his only “Russian-looking” trait. Generally they look no more Russian than Bengali or Han Chinese.

          That’s in the book. In illustrations it’s always the same shit as if from Nazi propaganda posters. I’m just hinting that this is very common for traditional communist groups, because they are in some sense conservative, looking into past where communism was a relevant young growing ideology, with that spring flavor like blooming lilac fragrance, and also due to the nature of that ideology putting some specific ideas of beauty as commonly normal, and if the majority of such a group is German, they’ll discard the minority opinions.

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            12 hours ago

            BTW where does the blue-eyed blond stereotype come from, it doesn’t seem to be the dominating type for most of Germany, and especially not south where reactionary and nazi stuff is most usual (not talking about former GDR now).

            Nazis had a bit of boner for Nordic sagas, runes, black suns and such. The blonde blue-eyed ideal comes from that. But because they compulsively mixed shit up, they called those people “Aryans” which originally stood for people from … Iran.

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              5 hours ago

              I mean, yes, Iran is Aryanshahr in Old Persian or something like that.

              Nazis formed their ideology in a bit of a barbaric time in linguistics, where grouping Germanic and Indo-Iranic languages and attaching Armenian to the latter was kinda normal. And when such action allows you to attach your axe-swinging barbaric ancestors who conquered Latin-speaking and Celtic-speaking peoples (incidentally your current chosen enemies are mostly Latin-speaking) to something similarly ancient, and also raise from the same civilization level with Slavic peoples to being a level above them (and your another chosen enemies are Slavic-speaking), and you live in the middle of XIX century when everybody did crap like that, and not having mythologized new nationalism for your monarchy is not an option, because you are being bitten by angry revolutionary students and the vague possibility of Austria becoming center, so you have to disqualify most of its empire as inferior, you just do.

              Then Nazis did a few smaller steps at treating that by then obsolete neo-Pagan heap of bullshit like something serious.