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    Remember 2 years ago when Western countries began to sanction Russia, all the libs on Twitter were gushing about how Russian planes will soon fall out of the sky in 6 months because no Western spare parts?

    Meanwhile, Russia has started serial production of its domestic made MS-21 airliner. I wonder if there is a market for the third world countries now that Boeing’s reputation is falling apart?

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        And the Indonesian and Ethiopian pilots during the first 737 MAX scandals in 2020.

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      It is not that rosy of a picture for them. Russia is having to cannibalize some of its fleet for spare parts and everything else had to be sourced from the black/grey markets which is like yeah sure grifting or whatever but there is a point to be made that aviation safety does rely on quality control and you can’t just replace stuff that easily. Yes of course the ability to manufacture and sell these parts is tightly controlled, imperialism and all, but it is all fine and good until the first accident isn’t?

      To be clear I don’t think those libs were arguing in good faith back then, but I also don’t think having a fleet of western aircraft maintained by parallel market parts is particularly good principle either.

      If anything I’d say this is very much against any sort of leftist principle for me, air travel is not essential and these are capitalist business, the idea of even putting innocent workers safety at risk for a modern convenience like that isn’t a win, maybe they could have just taken that L, reduced air travel to the upmost essential only and then used this opportunity build some trains or something.

      Instead when you read up on what Russia is trying to do to keep the whole thing running it is just old porky time we’ll do anything and it is literaly the quote from farquaad-point

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        It is not that rosy of a picture for them. Russia is having to cannibalize some of its fleet for spare parts and everything else had to be sourced from the black/grey markets which is like yeah sure grifting or whatever but there is a point to be made that aviation safety does rely on quality control and you can’t just replace stuff that easily. Yes of course the ability to manufacture and sell these parts is tightly controlled, imperialism and all, but it is all fine and good until the first accident isn’t?

        Of course, every sanctioned country does that. What are they supposed to do? They are being sanctioned with the purpose of stifling their economy, of course they don’t have the luxury but to take measures to mitigate that problem as far as they can take it.

        And it’s not like Russia is not doing anything about it. The state placed an order of 500 domestic built airliners over the next 10 years, of which a planned production of 270 MS-21 over the next 8 years (6 will be built this year, and by 2030 the production is supposed to ramp up to 70 units per year, which is ambitious to say the least). The goal is to completely replace foreign airliners with domestic made ones.

        maybe they could have just taken that L, reduced air travel to the upmost essential only and then used this opportunity build some trains or something.

        They’ve not been allowed to fly into most of Europe and the US, which were the major flight routes for Russia. The flights are already reduced thanks to the sanctions.

        And trains are being built. The import substitution will take time because they still used Western parts for their carriages, but it’s only a matter of time before these parts are fully localized.