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    • Lvxferre@mander.xyzM
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      8 months ago

      Yes, albeit indirectly - Italian borrowed it from Venetian sciao /stʃao/, that underwent the following sound changes:

      • Latin /kl/ ⟨CL⟩ → */kj/ → Venetian /tʃ/. Regular.
      • Latin /wu/ ⟨VV⟩ → Venetian /o/. Sometimes it fortifies to /vo/ instead, but there are other words where this happens (see e.g. pavonem “peacock” → paon)

      Then Italian dropped the /s/ in the borrowing because, while /stʃ/ is a legal cluster in Venetian, it isn’t in Italian.

      The semantic shift might look weird, but it pops up also in Austro-Bavarian and German “servus!” (hello) and Polish “serwus” (hello). Wiktionary mentions that the German greeting is from Mediaeval “seruus humillimus, domine spectabilis”; or “[I am a] humble servant, o notable lord”, odds are that Venetian “sciao” is the same.

      Note that the purely native Italian cognate would be schiavo /skjavo/ “slave”.

      EDIT: Dieguito answered as I wrote this answer, but I’m keeping it for further info.

      • DieguiTux8623@feddit.it
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        8 months ago

        I like yours better, your answer is far more extensive with explanation of the whole word and comparison with other languages.

        About the “sc” pattern [st͡ʃ]: it is very peculiar of the Venetian dialect but is not present in standard Italian: another example would be "mas’cio” (meaning “pig” or “male”) from Latin “masculus” > *masclus > maschio (as in Italiano) > mas’cio.

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      Yes, passing through the Venetian vulgar where the “cla” cluster which evolved to modern Italian “-chia-” [ki̯a] is further palatalized to “cia” [t͡ʃa].

      The original salute was meaning is “I am at your command”. In that region we still today, even it it’s rare / something that only elderly people do, use the form “mandi”, derived from “comandi” (i.e. again “at your commands”).