• dreadgoat@kbin.social
      1483·
      1 year ago

      used for things it wasn’t created for

      I think Python gets a point here, as it is very good at doing what it was created for.
      Javascript even sucks at its stated goal.

    • MaximumOverflow@lemmy.ca
      94·
      1 year ago

      You don’t master Javascript, ever. You just become accustomed to the madness and stop caring, while sometimes doing things right.

    • thewebroach@lemmy.world
      192·
      1 year ago

      Gotta say, ive done magical things in Javascript. NodeJS in particular can do damn near anything you set your mind to, and it doesnt give a damn if you use tab or 4 spaces.

      • PeWu@lemmy.ml
        7·
        1 year ago

        For real, you really can do anything there, sometimes sacrificing efficiency, but still.

      • Bye@lemmy.worldEnglish
        20·
        1 year ago

        That’s the joke

        It’s implying js isn’t a programming language because web stuff isn’t real programming

          • Aceticon@lemmy.world
            8·
            1 year ago

            Not even close.

            Most software out there is not consumer facing (there is a huge amount of custom stuff inside companies of all sizes) and even in the consumer space most software nowadays resides in … smartphones.

            Unless, of course, you count HTML (literally a Markup Language, so data formatting for display not code) as programming, in which case I’ll leave you to enjoy your fantasy world.

          • SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world
            4·
            1 year ago

            You kinda forget that for each front end you see theres at least 4 times more backend to support it.

            Also there are ton of non fron facing software.

            Anyway its not really a competition. No one will be offended if you are wrong or not.

            • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
              3·
              1 year ago

              The back-end functionality is still web functionality. Just because a user doesn’t see all the server stuff doesn’t mean it’s not necessary to support a website. There are billions of websites across the world, and they almost all use some combination of back-end, front-end, database, and server code.

        • Vilian@lemmy.ca
          234·
          1 year ago

          it’s a 4chan post, they don’t “think” they are lawless animals, deprived from any sense of rationality

      • CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world
        21·
        1 year ago

        They do share a significant commonality, though; they are both interpreted languages, rather than compiled. Sure, you can compile them, but they are meant to be run interpreted so you can quickly and easily tweak and change things and not have to wait for compilation to see the results. In that regard they are very comparable.

  • garyyo@lemmy.world
    492·
    1 year ago

    Python is the connective tissue holding together library calls and some of our most advanced AI research is reliant on that. mildly concerning

      • Cratermaker
        19·
        1 year ago

        If you think that’s bad, don’t think about how many important communications in the world happen completely verbally.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.world
        10·
        1 year ago

        Pretty much all online service APIs (Google APIs, Facebook and so on) out there are text-based.

        Granted, JSON formatted text, but still absolutelly human readable text.

        The reason for that is because it’s agnostic of the machine architectures (stuff like endianess) on both sides.

        The really crazy stuff in banking are the old binary protocols (like EDF) from the time when bandwidth was way less than now (so, the early 90s and earlier).

        • grue@lemmy.ml
          9·
          1 year ago

          (Nobody tell him about the Cobol batch jobs that still run overnight.)

        • PsychedSy@lemmy.world
          7·
          1 year ago

          You don’t want to know how bad it is. A good friend is a consultant/business analyst for some salesforce-based loan software. Shit’s terrifying.

          • funkless@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            1 year ago

            SFDC itself is written in Java but uses Javascript-esque APEX for whitelabel development?

            • PsychedSy@lemmy.world
              2·
              1 year ago

              I mostly meant the base level shit with text files and ridiculous APIs. Converting from one servicing system to another sounds kind of fun, though. I’ve always enjoyed doing horrible things to data. The most recent one I heard is there’s a drag and drop visual coding tool that I’m told can’t export to apex - just make calls to it.

  • PeteZ@lemmy.world
    293·
    1 year ago

    I had to do a project once with JavaScript. I did not enjoy the experience. In my opinion, a language where you need a reference to tell true from false is a bad language. So maybe JavaScript is the JavaScript of languages.

      • Skymt@lemmy.world
        16·
        1 year ago

        It’s only JavaScript if it is from the ECMA region in Europe. Otherwise it’s just sparkling java…

    • Liz@midwest.socialEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      I’m not a programmer but I took a class in JavaScript. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean by reference, I don’t recall that feature of the language. Can you explain?

    • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
      17·
      1 year ago

      That’s not even good rage bait.

      Rage bait would be for example if you said “they could fix everything that’s wrong with PHP but Python already exists”.