Balaji, a 43-year-old Long Island native who goes by his first name, has a solid Valley pedigree: He earned multiple degrees from Stanford University, founded multiple startups, became a partner at Andreessen-Horowitz and then served as chief technology officer at Coinbase. He is also the leader of a cultish and increasingly strident neo-reactionary tech political movement that sees American democracy as an enemy. In 2013, a New York Times story headlined “Silicon Valley Roused by Secession Call” described a speech in which he “told a group of young entrepreneurs that the United States had become ‘the Microsoft of nations’: outdated and obsolescent.”

“The speech won roars from the audience at Y Combinator, a leading start-up incubator,” reported the Times. Balaji paints a bleak picture of a dystopian future in a U.S. in chaos and decline, but his prophecies sometimes fall short. Last year, he lost one million dollars in a public bet after wrongly predicting a massive surge in the price of Bitcoin.

Still, his appetite for autocracy is bottomless. Last October, Balaji hosted the first-ever Network State Conference. Garry Tan—the current Y Combinator CEO who’s attempting to spearhead a political takeover of San Francisco—participated in an interview with Balaji and cast the effort as part of the Network State movement. Tan, who made headlines in January after tweeting “die slow motherfuckers” at local progressive politicians, frames his campaign as an experiment in “moderate” politics. But in a podcast interview one month before the conference, Balaji laid out a more disturbing and extreme vision.

What I’m really calling for is something like tech Zionism,” he said, after comparing his movement to those started by the biblical Abraham, Jesus Christ, Joseph Smith (founder of Mormonism), Theodor Herzl (“spiritual father” of the state of Israel), and Lee Kuan Yew (former authoritarian ruler of Singapore). Balaji then revealed his shocking ideas for a tech-governed city where citizens loyal to tech companies would form a new political tribe clad in gray t-shirts. “And if you see another Gray on the street…you do the nod,” he said, during a four-hour talk on the Moment of Zen podcast. “You’re a fellow Gray.”

The Grays’ shirts would feature “Bitcoin or Elon or other kinds of logos … Y Combinator is a good one for the city of San Francisco in particular.” Grays would also receive special ID cards providing access to exclusive, Gray-controlled sectors of the city. In addition, the Grays would make an alliance with the police department, funding weekly “policeman’s banquets” to win them over.

“Grays should embrace the police, okay? All-in on the police,” said Srinivasan. “What does that mean? That’s, as I said, banquets. That means every policeman’s son, daughter, wife, cousin, you know, sibling, whatever, should get a job at a tech company in security.”

In exchange for extra food and jobs, cops would pledge loyalty to the Grays. Srinivasan recommends asking officers a series of questions to ascertain their political leanings. For example: “Did you want to take the sign off of Elon’s building?”

This refers to the August 2023 incident in which Elon Musk illegally installed a large flashing X logo atop Twitter headquarters, in violation of building safety codes. City inspectors forced him to remove it. This was the second time Musk had run afoul of the city in his desire to refurbish his headquarters: In July, police briefly halted his attempt to pry the “Twitter” signage from the building’s exterior. But in Balaji’s dystopia, he implies that officers loyal to the Grays would let Musk do as he pleases (democratically-inclined officers, he suggests, can be paid to retire).

Simply put, there is a ton of fascist-chic cosplay involved. Once an officer joins the Grays, they get a special uniform designed by their tech overlords. The Grays will also donate heavily to police charities and “merge the Gray and police social networks.” Then, in a show of force, they’ll march through the city together.

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    Balaji then revealed his shocking ideas for a tech-governed city where citizens loyal to tech companies would form a new political tribe clad in gray t-shirts. “And if you see another Gray on the street…you do the nod,” he said, during a four-hour talk on the Moment of Zen podcast. “You’re a fellow Gray.”

    The Grays’ shirts would feature “Bitcoin or Elon or other kinds of logos … Y Combinator is a good one for the city of San Francisco in particular.” Grays would also receive special ID cards providing access to exclusive, Gray-controlled sectors of the city. In addition, the Grays would make an alliance with the police department, funding weekly “policeman’s banquets” to win them over.

    “Grays should embrace the police, okay? All-in on the police,” said Srinivasan. “What does that mean? That’s, as I said, banquets. That means every policeman’s son, daughter, wife, cousin, you know, sibling, whatever, should get a job at a tech company in security.”

    What in tarnation?

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      What in tarnation?

      This shit was too wild for me not to post when I came across it this morning, I knew this organization existed but this guy’s vision laid out is dystopian AF.

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        Its even more than that. It’s like an edgy teenager’s view of what a powerful group is. Instead of seeing adult versions of authoritarianism like:

        “We’ll change zoning and lending laws to preclude anyone but our group from owning property in our chosen city. Without inclusion in our group education opportunities will be restricted. Healthcare will be rationed for all except us”

        …we get…

        “We’ll hold banquets for police.” “In exchange for extra food and jobs, cops would pledge loyalty to the Grays” (I’ll buy pizza for the group and they’ll be my friend forever!)

        “And if you see another Gray on the street…you do the nod” (like a secret handshake you need to perform before you enter the clubhouse!)

        Its such an oddly childish approach. Is the guy this silly or is he intentionally putting out a childish version to attract those that think this that is what power is and how human motivations work?

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          It’s hard to know, these tech guys are pretty cloistered in their lives in many cases. Many also start that way at private schools and in higher Ed. This is a Stanford dude, which might not be quite as bad as a Harvard dude, but still messed up in subtly different ways.

          I have a bit of experience with the east coast elite, living and working with many in Boston for 15 years. They go to a big private high school, like Philips Exeter. It’s got amenities and educational opportunities that are hard to believe, and basically ingrains how much better and special their rich students are than the rest of society (us plebes).

          There are seriously fucked up things going on in those places that are teaching these CEO’s kids that they will control and profit from the world, at the expense of everyone who isn’t in their in-group.

          It’s really hard to imagine how we’re going to get out of the economic and power structures that got us where we are. Voting reform and real progressives that aren’t part of the existing elite and are willing to do the tough work that won’t set them up in the oligarchy class (or the as the oligarchy’s lackeys) are probably the best chance we have to do it peacefully.

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    Yeah, that’s inciting insurrection/rebellion. If this guy didn’t already have people monitoring him 24/7, he sure as shit does now. And well he should.

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    Balaji, … who goes by his first name…

    Like… everyone else? Or is it like a Madonna situation where he drops his last name?

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    Uh huh. CTO of coinbase. That’s as far as I read.

    So another cryptobro that thinks they’re the next tech messiah.

    You made an e-commerce platform that used crypto currency instead of standard currency. You didn’t innovate shit.

    You’re the Tres Comas douchebag IRL. Congrats.

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    In my country we have an old saying that I learned from Jewish store/market people:
    “I wish you many employees…”
    The meaning is that while it is fun to have a store, having to deal with employees can be a bit daunting and frustrating, a toll on your sleep and sanity, so in effect they are wishing you sorrow and despair.

    After having worked with Indian colleagues and managers for 10+ years I developed my own version of it:
    “I wish you an Indian manager…”
    This means that I kinda dislike you and I can get great pleasure of watching you struggle with the insanity of what is Indian management.
    Great people to work with, absolute idiots and delusional sociopaths once they become part of management.

    It’s a joke but in reality, both sayings do have some sort of merit to them.

    This guy gives me that lunatic Indian management vibe…

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      I work tech in the states and Indian managers are usually f’n brutal, had to sit through a few tense meetings where my Indian director was practically yelling at one of the project managers, and this was one of his favorites. Indian interviewers are pretty harsh as well. However Indian coworkers are usually pretty cool, especially the few Sikhs I’ve met.

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    Wishing these assholes will face the wrath of none other than… conservatives of U.S.A who hate tech companies and techbros.

    The moment they want to Secede, this guy gets prosecuted by the U.S Government.

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      Money hoarding and stories of the “greatness of the Indian caste system” while he was a boy broke this dudes brain.

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    If someone started hunting these Neo-fuedalists and were caught, I’d consider it self defense.

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    My impression is that some tech workers in the Bay Area are growing increasingly frustrated with the way the government runs the place. They often come from a liberal background, but the phrase I’ve heard is that if you want to convince someone to be a Republican, you should have him live in San Francisco. (The majority of people in San Francisco still vote for Democrats, but I suppose the “someone” in that phrase is specifically a tech worker.) They have a point - the last time I was there, I was at a wedding that was interrupted by the sounds of exploding propane cylinders from a nearby homeless encampment which was on fire. San Francisco is surprisingly unpleasant for them given how wealthy it is and surprisingly hostile to them given how much of that wealth comes from tech. These tech workers are also often opposed to the Democrats’ emphasis on equity, which they see as an attack on meritocracy.

    Meanwhile, for someone who works in tech and is successful, the way that a tech company is run has better results: the environment is pleasant and safe, the pay is great, and management is respectful. There appears to be a lot to gain if tech can run the city for the benefit of tech.

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      Tech company….pleasant and safe environment. You sound like one of the tech Zionists. Tech companies are not typically safe or pleasant. Not for 15 years at least.

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        management is respectful

        Dude clearly hasn’t been paying attention for the last several years.

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        I’ve worked in tech (but not in the Bay Area) for over ten years and what I say has been my own experience. I’m not claiming that every tech job is great, but good programmers are in such high demand that there’s no reason for one of them to settle for less.

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      The tech company life is great until they fire you and 10% of your colleagues in pursuit of even bigger profits. Then when your on the streets you’ll probably prefer the current liberal city government over whatever these fascists have planned for the homeless

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        I’ve gotten laid off myself before. It was disappointing but not a major financial setback - I had been getting paid enough that I could then live comfortably on my savings until I found a new job. I think that overall, as long as tech companies keep making those even bigger profits, tech workers will be doing well.

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          Profits are gained often times at the expense of the workers, as seen in the recent push for profitability in the wake of interest rate hikes which has resulted in mass layoffs across the industry. These layoffs also have a double effect of flooding the job market depressing wages and allowing employers to further exploit their workers with the threat of casting them into the quagmire of unemployment. In this sense companies thrive off the economic insecurity of there workers as the more your afraid to lose your job, the less you’ll complain about ungodly hours or not getting a raise to keep up with inflation.

          This threat is less scary for higher paid wealthier workers like yourself who may have the savings to sustain a bout of unemployment, but for lower paid, poorer or even higher paid people with higher obligations like a mortgage, child care, medical expenses etc. this threat is big.

          This is why this techno-fascist ideology is so horrible, its stability relies on casting out the undesirables and unproductive and using the threat of being pushed out to enforce conformity. Like all fascism it sounds great if your part of the in group, but once the new bar is set and your cast out you’ll realize the tyranny that the system perpetuates.