• RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      3·
      4 months ago

      I don’t see how. Biden and Bush have both explicitly shown that they’re dedicated to something beyond politics, and politics is just a vehicle to get there for them.

      Doesn’t mean any of the supernatural is real or fascists make sense, just that these people’s worldviews are shaped by it. And if nothing else, the secrecy and elitist nature of these movements simply provide somewhere for fascists to network and collaborate as seen with Gladio. A lot of the societies don’t give a shit about the occult/ancient history outside of ceremony to make them feel special and exclusive which attracts rich and powerful narcissists.

      It’s all free on the site and I’m reading the intro, and it can be a little whacky sometimes with its matter of fact tone when it comes to associating events with the occult, but it doesn’t attribute everything to the occult. Just like bands after the Beatles, you don’t really need to know or care about who pioneered what or who founded this and that. You can be influenced by it subconsciously, be inspired by others who are familiar with the origins, or deliberately seek things out for your own benefit without caring about the history or traditions

      • Vampire [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        22·
        4 months ago

        It’s bad history. It confidently states unsubstantiated facts.

        Masonic history is a whole sub-specialty of history, there are a lot of texts and dusty sources to be looked through, a lot to learn there.

        I’m skeptical that there’s sources that connect the followers of Zevi to Scottish Rite Masonry, for one. And I’m skeptical of basically every other claim in the pic

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          2·
          4 months ago

          Well I guess so. I am more familiar with the modern organizations and movements, and some of it mostly* matches up with what I’ve seen elsewhere, so I can’t say anything about its research into the ancient stuff. I just find it interesting is all

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
    15·
    4 months ago

    I was searching for the intersection between fraternal orgs/secret societies, GLADIO, and the far right of the cold war, and came across the page for Volume 4 on that site.

    Author doesn’t seem to be a bad guy. But just imagine being TrueAnon-pilled but also Russiagate-pilled

  • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    9·
    4 months ago

    There’s a ruling class and some do organize in weird ways, absolutely, but for the most part it’s just inherent reality that it’s easier to steal from the bottom than it is to risk confrontation with equal or greater powers so that’s mostly what happens.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    6·
    4 months ago

    when i was a lot younger i read Foucault’s Pendulum, because it seemed like it was going to a fictional adventure into the world of conspiracy.

    anyone who has actually read it is probably chuckling at that, because the book is actually about these guys who, after being forced to read a bunch of junk conspiracy theory novels for shitty pay at a vanity publisher decide to use a little custom computer program one of them wrote to randomly reconfigure and link conspiracy theories together, as like a joke for themselves to pass the time. the book was from the 80s, when that’s about what a computer nerd could do with a computer.

    they refer to this inside-joke as “The Plan”. and, naturally, some of the rich cranks who submit novels get wind of its creations, thinking these guys have stumbled onto the Real Truth linking everything together into a grant narrative of occult history which will lead the discoverers to ultimate power and wealth. and the protagonists have to go into hiding to avoid being tortured to death by nutjobs to give up their secrets. tragically, confessing that it was a computer generated prank does nothing to dissuade their pursuers/torturers.

    reading this sequence gave me vibes like that book has come true and the artificial fabrications of any computer can create random conspiratorial occult narratives are that much more detailed, including AI assisted artistic representations, and i’m just like: damn, this is one really fucked up time to be alive and searching for meaning.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      2·
      4 months ago

      I choose not to read it as a “theory of everything” or “ultimate truth” but rather glimpses - some accurate, some incoherent - of how the fascist zeitgeist came to be. And I mean we have literally seen instances of these cartoonish cigarette smoking man styled plans in play, so it’s not completely bonkers

  • DavidGarcia@feddit.nlEnglish
    2·
    4 months ago

    can’t believe they haven’t even worked in the Jesuits and the Orsini, the author must be their puppet!!!

    vatican shadow bank nazi rah rah rghbgbghbhgu aruuuuuuuuu asafagsjshafagssj

    oof owie I think my brain was space microwaved