Former President Donald Trump​ and more than a dozen of his associates with election fraud, racketeering and other charges related to alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
  • downpunxx@kbin.social
    1352·
    1 year ago

    hahahahahaha, Fulton County Georgia is gonna get and release mug shots on every single one of these motherfuckers, and the court cases are going to be televised, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

  • Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
    99·
    1 year ago

    I wonder how many people will actually show up? God, I want to wake up on the 25th and read an article about how there’s a manhunt out for Trump because his lawyers dragged him down to Georgia and then he ditched them after pretending he needed to piss.

    • yukichigai@kbin.social
      641·
      1 year ago

      They’d just need to check for him at the base of any gradual incline without a handrail.

    • whofearsthenight@lemmy.worldEnglish
      131·
      1 year ago

      Honestly at this point, what are the chances he doesn’t flee the country?

      I mean, how likely is he to dodge four different indictments or come out of these without jail time, especially given that GA, where most of the crimes committed were either on TV, recorded, or have multiple witnesses that probably already flipped, have a minimum five year sentence? And pretty much all of these cases exist this way. It’s like he has a fetish for going on TV and confessing to the crime. The 2nd E Jean Carroll case is like perfect evidence of this. I don’t even think Tarantino likes feet as much as Trump likes confessing and committing crimes.

      His previous plan of becoming president again to force constitutional crisis of how to punish a sitting president was already a Hail Mary. He was going against the guy he lost to already, that guy is now the incumbent and it’s rare in modern times incumbents lose, and by nearly any measure, that incumbent has had a very successful presidency. So this was a long shot to begin with.

      Then the backup option was another Republican wins and pardons Trump. But that doesn’t allow him to dodge Georgia and he can’t even be eligible until he’s served five years if he loses GA. Also, I suspect that there are few people alive who have ever shared a room with Trump that don’t hate his fucking guts, so even if he skates in Georgia somehow doesn’t win the presidency and a republican does, where does the pressure come from to pardon Trump? This would effectively be the final nail in his political career. Congress in '18, presidency in '20 along with most of his endorsements, and then lost in '24. And somehow there is going to be a groundswell of political pressure to force someone like DeSantis, who very obviously hates him, to pardon Trump? Doubt it.

      So Trump, a very obvious rat is left on a very obviously sinking ship. If I had to guess, he’s going to spend the week reaching out to whichever dictators will take his calls and offer them some combo of state secrets and further tweets and videos like “forced to flee thanks to this political witch-hunt by the deep state!!!” in the hopes it continues to destabilize the US and the west in general in exchange for some cushy asylum. My other guess might have been that he really for real tries to ignite a civil war, but after the pithy little crowd that showed to support at the first arraignment, I’m guessing he’s given up on that one.

      I really hope I’m wrong and his Diet Coke and Big Mac sauce veins don’t calcify before he can face justice, but I’m afraid I’m just too cynical when it comes to this asshole to let myself hope.

  • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    652·
    1 year ago

    Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis said late Monday that former President Donald Trump and his 18 allies who were indicted on 41 felony counts have until noon ET on Friday, Aug. 25 to turn themselves in or an arrest warrant will be issued.

    Why not, you know, fucking arrest them like a normal person?

    I swear the Dave Chappelle skit is just proving its accuracy at this point.

    • chaorace@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      663·
      1 year ago

      I assume this is a genuine question? This is a state-level indictment from Georgia and Mr. Trump resides in Florida. Georgia cops can’t just go on an extrajudicial joyride across state lines and grab him. That would, unfortunately, be abduction.

      In cases like these where a state wants to prosecute someone residing in another jurisdiction, the process generally goes like this:

      1. The prosecuting state asks for the indicted person to return within a reasonable timeframe and face their allegations
      2. The prosecuting state waits for this time limit to lapse
      3. The governor of the prosecuting state requests an extradition warrant from the governor of the indicted person’s state [1]
      4. If the indicted person’s state does not comply within a reasonable timeframe, then the prosecuting state gets the FBI involved
      5. If the FBI fails to extradite (very unlikely), then the prosecuting state can pass a default judgement and start following alternative courses of action for causing suffering to the guilty

      1. Generally speaking, states are federally obligated to honor each other’s extradition requests, though asking nicely still remains the first resort. Gov. DeSantis does have an opportunity to grandstand here, but he’s much more likely to drag out the process rather than outright defy it – pissing off the FBI is something which states try to avoid doing ↩︎

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        92·
        1 year ago
        1. The prosecuting state asks for the indicted person to return within a reasonable timeframe and face their allegations
        2. The indicted person flees the country
        3. The end

        Much be nice to be rich where you do crime, go anywhere you want, and escape the punishment. No federal no-fly list to be put on because it’s all state charges.

        • chaorace@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          9·
          1 year ago

          Uh, yeah… I guess? Step 2 is doing a lot of heavy lifting because states can and do extradite internationally. There’s a whole federal office which exists for this specific purpose: the OIA. It’s hardly a “happily ever after” situation to spend the rest of your life far away from home and constantly looking over your shoulders.

      • Zoboomafoo@yiffit.net
        74·
        1 year ago

        That would, unfortunately, be abduction.

        In this case, I’m pro abduction, let’s do that

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    36·
    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis said late Monday that former President Donald Trump and his 18 allies who were indicted on 41 felony counts have until noon ET on Friday, Aug. 25 to turn themselves in or an arrest warrant will be issued.

    Willis addressed reporters shortly after a grand jury indicted former President Donald Trump and 18 others on 41 counts, including 13 against Trump, of election fraud, racketeering and other charges related to alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

    Other co-defendants include Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department official; and Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis, conservative lawyers who pushed baseless claims of voter fraud.

    In a statement, Trump’s attorneys Drew Findling, Jennifer Little and Marissa Goldberg said, “The events that have unfolded today have been shocking and absurd.”

    “This one-sided grand jury presentation relied on witnesses who harbor their own personal and political interests— some of whom ran campaigns touting their efforts against the accused and/or profited from book deals and employment opportunities as a result,” the attorneys said in the statement.

    “We look forward to a detailed review of this indictment which is undoubtedly just as flawed and unconstitutional as this entire process has been.”

    I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • JonsJava@lemmy.world
      14·
      1 year ago

      Only those that call Georgia home can be tried for treason in that state.

      Penalty in Georgia: death, life, or no less than 15 years.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        1 year ago

        The wording is kind of interesting:

        Treason against thr state of Georgia shall consist of insurrection against the state, adhering to the state’s enemies, or giving them aid or comfort.

        Who or what entity is an enemy of the state of Georgia?

    • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      Basically nil. Both the federal Constitution and Georgia law define treason very narrowly as waging war or giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the US/State of Georgia.

  • HowMany@lemmy.ml
    42·
    1 year ago

    Run donnie run the dogs gonna getcha, run donnie run the dogs is comin’, run donnie run the dogs gonna getcha, run while ya can - run donnie run. (to the tune of run rabbit run, and a one and a two and ready and a play boys… ♫ ♪♪♥

    • ikidd@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      You better run all day and run all night

      And keep your dirty feelings deep inside

      And if you’re taking your girlfriend out tonight

      You better park the car well out of sight

      Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks

      They’re gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box

      You better run!

  • HowMany@lemmy.ml
    22·
    1 year ago

    Sorry donnie… best I can do is next week. We may as well get this started.