“This whole saga makes me genuinely embarrassed to follow this stuff. I just want a sub that has an informed opinion on AI, this is worse than crypto bro bullshit.”
“Every hype-man who posts vague tweets and hype posts should be ridiculed. Every clown who posts screenshots of said tweets on this sub should be ridiculed.”
““AGI is coming out next year” - this sub for the last 4 years”
some self aware highlights.
I hadn’t put it together before but it completely makes sense that singularity believers would easily fall for AI hype.
yeah, iirc the first step to singularity or at least what causes it is an ASI so we have this community of dweebs thinking that that’ll solve everything and not, like, communism, which probably won’t solve everything but certainly more than whatever the fuck llms are doing.
Drooling with anticipation for sapient hologram helpmeets with godlike powers that also unconditionally love them and want to fuck them lead to some very wishful thinking.
One of the weirdest struggle sessions I had before I was away for almost a year was some smug computer toucher that directly invoked that movie for their argument for why LLMs were at least as sentient/sapient as us mere meat computers.
Yes, others also brought up that it was fiction and fiction doesn’t have to adhere to scientific or philosophical rigor, but that treat hog didn’t care. We’re all meat puppets and our consciousness is an illusion to them and the treat printer said “I love you” so it’s just like it was for John Blade Runner, who would totally drive a Cybertruck
Wow that is a tier of “missing the point the movie was making” previously thought only theoretically possible.
They saw
hologram, and because death of the author and all that, they decided the movie was about how hologram was just around the corner, just for them.
Gonna have to wait a long time now that every startup grift and zombie legacy company has redefined AI to mean “computer does stuff” and declared victory. At least, if the billboards on the 101 I see on the way to SFO are any indication - Salesforce will use “AI” to increase your “productivity”. What does that mean? It means give us your money, chumps.
Not that AI robot slave girlfriends were ever happening in any case; obviously everyone in /r/singularity is competing for the title of most scientifically illiterate person alive and has no clue how the brain - or anything, really - works.
A few decades ago, the same was done by saying “MULTIMEDIA.”
It’s incredible watching them slowly realise that they bet their hopes for utopia on a slightly more annoying customer service chatbot.
As someone who once was a transhumanist (back when there were still Socialists in the community) I almost feel bad for them. Almost. A lot of them are young and haven’t yet realised that hope from tech alone is always, always hollow. What they do with that knowledge…well…I got better, but I was always communist.
OAI staggering releases to make GPT-4 look like it was faster than it actually was was a genius marketing move but they haven’t done anything interesting for near two years now.
Tbf, at least tech is real and observable so putting hope in science is better than putting it in fairytales forced on western civilization through extreme violence by the Roman Empire and other means of settler colonialism.
It’s still thought poison and being smug about your atheism isn’t really contributing anything to this conversation about credulous atheists buying into technology cults.
at least tech is real and observable
Except when it isn’t, such as billionaire grifter promises and fraudulent marketing hype gimmicks.
settler colonialism
Still in effect without religion, such as this:
Oof, touché. I consider myself more agnostic than atheist, but I suppose I was a little too harsh. I just get frustrated with religion when Christians tell me that climate change doesn’t matter because “the world has to end for Jesus to come back.” Allowing the world to end feels too much like a death cult. Otherwise, I have no problem with religious people who don’t try to force their religion into politics and on others.
I do wholeheartedly agree that religious bullshit was, is, and probably will continue to bring oppression, tyranny, war, and slaughter.
My argument is that those things don’t just evaporate and leave behind a crisp scent of logic and euphoria once religion is no longer involved.
And so much for the “none will know the time nor the day” part of Revelations whenever some bloodthirsty “American Civic Religion” yahoo supports Israel because of their own blood-soaked fantasies of nudging along the apocalypse to stick it to the (slurs).
EDIT: Ever hear one of those street preachers when they babble about how “if everyone was Christian, there would be no more war?” I sure have. I feel the same way about bloodthirsty Sam Harris type Reddit New Atheists when they decree that if only everyone was atheist (after nuking the Middle East, as some like to suggest) there’d be no more war or other bad things.
As someone who once was a transhumanist (back when there were still Socialists in the community)
Are you me?
I used to actually go to those so-called futurology conferences back on the west coast. I stopped going when the military started setting up shop there and the spectacles got too creepy to bear. It went from “a future where everyone is better off is in measurable distance” to “imagine immortality and superpowers for the worst people in the world, also buy some internet funny money!”
Their idiot eschatology community has now reached the development level of having false prophets. What exciting places will they go from here?
Someone needs to be sacrificed
Years ago, I read someone post “you (computer touchers) don’t ‘fucking love’ science, you stare at its ass while it walks by.”
That’s what we’re seeing in the “singularity” cult: people that don’t actually have much of a grasp of science but are really really excited about vague promises of immortality and superpowers.
Humans have been dreaming about finding the secret to immortality for thousands of years. It isn’t possible and it isn’t happening in our life time. With how critically underfunded scientific research is, at best scientists may find a way to slow down the aging process by 5 to 10% each generation.
Under the present system, life extension is a luxury for the worst people in society that’ll keep them around even longer and stretch out their most stubborn and lich-like phases of their extended lives. Shit sucks.
Yeah, it just isn’t happening without a massive cooperative effort over generations. Not just the time for each generation of volunteers to be monitored, but also the work needed to address age-related entropy that isn’t purely “lifespan” - no point splicing yourself into tortoise-person if you spend the next three hundred years as Joe Biden.
That’s a selfless undertaking for tens of thousands who will never see the benefits and might suffer some real nasty side effects. Leaving aside whether or not it should be done in the first place, it’s just not compatible with the Rich Man Afraid of Hypothetical Screaming Void impulse which drives modern life extension nowadays.
I disagree that it’s impossible but agree that it’s not gonna happen by stuffing ourselves with microprocessors
i mean theyre cultists so
the leap from ‘cute statistics engine that is basically an elaborate and flawed google search’ to ‘thinking robot girlfriend that worships me’ is huge and they keep acting like its trivial
the leap from ‘cute statistics engine that is basically an elaborate and flawed google search’ to ‘thinking robot girlfriend that worships me’ is huge and they keep acting like its trivial
Sometimes the leap feels easier to make for them if they belittle living beings and call them “meat puppets” or “meat computers.” Saw that shit on Hexbear too before the LLM grift and the societal enshittification and environmental damage it was causing became too obvious to ignore, even if some were fine with “not real jobs” being eliminated back then.
strawberry man used the hype by pretending to be an insider and making claims that strawberry is coming very soon and will completely change everything
Lol people still fall for the “my dad works for nintendo” bit when no other independent source can verify the claim?
Lol people still fall for the “my dad works for nintendo” bit when no other independent source can verify the claim?
It is just as embarrassing as the people who buy into “insider political leaks.” Unnamed, unverifiable sources are almost always fabricated
Depends on the nature of political leaks. A lot are deliberately leaked to control the narrative. For example, leaks about Biden “being furious” with Netanyahu is just to appeal to west wing brained liberals. Or how “anonymous sources revealed” to MSM that “Ukrainians” were behind the Nordstream bombing. In the latter case, they admit it was sabotage, but want a different narrative around it.
Does anyone truly believe that Ukraine destroyed NS2 on their own? Biden told the whole world he was going to “bring and end to it” if Russia invaded Ukraine and that is exactly what he did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8&t=90 “How will you stop NS2, it belongs to Germany?” “I promise you we WILL do it”
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Not necessarily. Often it’s coming from a real source, it’s that if the source was known it’d be blatantly obvious the “leak” isn’t juicy truths TPTB are trying to keep from us but rather blatant propaganda from TPTB are pushing to manufacture consent.
I don’t follow. Half-truths are lies in my book so it sounds like we agree that those claims are largely fabrications aimed to stir up drama (increase engagement) or deceive us (manufacture consent)
Either way, it shouldn’t be legal for any journalist to try to pass off unverifiable gossip as legitimate News.
I interpreted your original comment to mean “the journalist made up the leak.” I’m guessing from your response that you meant the insider source pulled it out of their ass.
I think it is a mix of both. Insiders exaggerating or making stuff up and journalists also exaggerating or straight up lying about having a source when they don’t.
I can’t be the only person who has never heard of strawberry man before this, and still have no idea what happened after reading that thread.
Yeah I missed this entirely
Missed this saga, what was the hype about? Grok2?
Blarp7
I don’t know what this means!
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The only “singularity” I trust:
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