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    30 days ago

    if you’re spending the rest of your life in jail anyway might as well stop protesting and start taking direct action. This is self defense.

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    handing them prison terms akin to rapists

    If this was the case, over 99% of them would be free to go.

    I’d say it’s 100% rage bait to include rapists in the title, but it’s worse - it’s a flat out but very deliberate lie made up and perpetuated by patriarchal rape culture to give the illusion that all crime is treated the same, and that there are significantly fewer rapes than there really are (E: because, in this lie, rapists are not only generally convicted but seriously punished, and those who believe it, use the low numbers of convicted rapists as evidence of it not being the serious and widespread problem that it is, rather than of the system being complicit).

    A more accurate headline should be: patriarchal pro oil “justice” system punishes anti-oil protestors significantly more harshly than it does rapists

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      I think you’re giving CNN too much credit. So much so that it dips into conspiracy logic.

      Never over complicate and attribute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance and greed. Why would they do this? Because it’s clickbait. It’s a jarring word, and they want people to visit the site. Rapist are under convicted, yes. But to spin an entire web about the wording in the headline? C’mon. The body uses the suggested sentences for each crime as reference, which is why they could use the attention grabbing headline.

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          I get and understand the concept of what you’re trying to say, but it’s more than a bit of a reach to say it’s in play here, I think. Not fitting in the complicated history of untested rape kits and leniency in sentencing based on the rapists’ backgrounds and the socioeconomic backgrounds and skin color of the victims into a headline about climate protesters having the book thrown at them isn’t bias. It’s just kinda superfluous information in regards to the topic at hand.

          I get it, it’s a massive problem. And one that desperately needs to be addressed. I just don’t think it extends to this article. Bias can be subtle and often is. And I understand that trying to point it out can be like trying to catch smoke in a butterfly net. But the subtlety of it cuts both ways, and I just think you happen to be on the wrong side of that divide. Just my opinion, though. That’s the great thing about subtlety and nuance, it’s up for discussion.

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    The laws were passed under conservatives weren’t they? Tells you all there’s you need to know. All they care about are the rich and corporations which are owned by the rich.

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        Because everyone seems to have it in their mind that they too could be this wealthy… ironically, because the wealthy told them they could be.

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    Rapists and muggers might belong in the same tier, but thieves and vandals should largely be in a lower tier of sentencing. Maybe with the exception of seriously harmful vandalism.

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    I really hate the writing, it feels like watching an American news channel. I literally stopped reading it, I don’t need that in my brain.

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    I feel like climate protestors in the UK lost a lot of sympathy when they started attempting to do things like deface the Magna Carta and Stonehenge.

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      For what it’s worth, most of those JSO protests have been done in a way that would not damage the actual object. Like the Stonehenge one, it wasn’t paint, it was cornflour and food colouring that would just come off in the rain (and was, in the end, removed with just a leafblower). The Magna Carta one actually was doing damage though.

      Regardless of that, I don’t personally think that they are effective protests. They’re far too easy to frame as mindless vandalism.

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      I’d hate for future generations to miss out on seeing those things. It sure would be a shame for fires, floods, storms, or mass die-offs to spoil that.

      What’s the point in preserving history if there’s no guarantee of a future?

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          They didn’t call themselves People for the Gentle Handing of Historical Artifacts and they have yet to destroy or murder a single thing they’ve claimed to be interested in protecting…

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      Given the backlash against environmental protestors blocking traffic, can you imagine the backlash against the oil industry when an unusually severe storm or flood or landslide blocks traffic?!

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    In late July, a London court found Gethin and four other members of the Just Stop Oil activist group guilty of “conspiring intentionally to cause a public nuisance,” after recruiting protesters to climb structures along the M25 — a major ring road around London — bringing traffic to a standstill in parts over four days in November 2022

    Regardless of your opinion on these particular cases, Just Stop Oil’s tactics are probably among the least effective protest strategies ever

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      Shutting down oil refineries seems like a very effective form of protest to me.

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        That stuff is cool, but I’m pretty sure they’re referring to stuff like throwing soup over famous paintings (or rather, the glass covering famous paintings). I have to agree with them if that is what they mean; these actions are far far too easy to present as just vandalism for its own sake, and there’s no obvious connection between the targets and the intention of the protests.

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            The problem is it just brings people to talk about how awful these climate protestors are for vandalising things people feel culturally attached to. The conversation is never about climate change.

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              It does help that “actually they haven’t destroyed a single work of art” is a pretty good entry point to explain how protests are just a way of displaying group outrage

              Civil rights were won by relentlessly challenging the courts, exhausting the public so much it blew back on the government administration, and with the armed black Panthers present as an implicit threat - “if you decide to throw out the law, so will we”

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              It does bring up the topic of climate change several times, and yet’s still more than the protest that do happen, but you never hear about because they don’t inconvenience anyone. There have been plenty of instances of protests vandalizing rich people’s yachts, for example, but that doesn’t make the headlines and people don’t care, so no attention is raised and it’s ultimately meaningless.