• Allero@lemmy.today
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    17 hours ago

    Interesting - will read more about that Quran contradiction. Thanks!

    Also, to clarify, the reason you believe that Bible holds actual historical value is that, unlike legends and stories, it is more or less consistent?

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      10 hours ago

      Pretty much. Also, we tend to accept facts like “Julius Caesar was born in Subaru” when our only source is some guy said that 200 years after he was born. So in terms of Historical records, the New Testament is actually pretty contemporary, being written mere decades after Jesus existed. My faith primarily hinges on Jesus’ and the New Testament

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        9 hours ago

        So ain’t that the reason to doubt that Caesar was born in Subaru and seek more evidence, as opposed to believe the New Testament? Also, given the supernatural claims about Jesus, shouldn’t it be supplied with extraordinary evidence?

        We know for sure that Caesar did exist and was the Roman dictator, for example. We also have contemporary sources on his life - accounts of Cicero, for example, or Sallust.

        Can we say for sure that Jesus did exist, and, especially important, has actually created any miracles?

        And also, what about evidence for the existence of Buddha, for example? Did he never exist or he never attained nirvana, or he falsely believed he switched to some supernatural state while this was all mental? Or did it all exist in parralel?

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          8 hours ago

          There were several sources for Jesus doing miracles - not just the ones contained in the New Testament, but Celsus as well as the Talmud affirmed the miracles, but just put them down as sorcery.

          What sort of extraordinary evidence are you looking for, exactly? Jesus didn’t lead an army or a nation so you’d be hard pressed to find coins with His face on them. He did leave a Church though which there is evidence from, and that it just spawned at a specific period of time. So something clearly happened

          As for Buddha, Buddha is dead. Buddha didn’t even claim to be a god or a prophet. Buddhism appears to be more of a philosophy than a theistic religion.