I admit I havenāt paid a lot of attention to the leadership contest. But when it got down to the last 4, I read a brief description of each of the cunts.
James Cleverly seemed like the least bad option.
Not only is Robert Jenrick far-right, he is also fashionably far-right. What I mean by that is that he seems to have leaned to the far-right because it seems to be a popular position at the moment.
A bit like Boris. Writing two essays for and against Brexit.
Now Iām not against immigration, but I think itās a bit of a fucking joke that the former IMMIGRATION minister should be the one in charge of a far right, anti-immigration movement. Like wasnāt that your job? And didnāt immigration keep going up under you? To record levels?
Heās also (unsurprisingly I suppose) in favour of Farrage joining the party. Although I suspect he may be looking to Nick his job if he does get in. He could Robert straight from under his feet.
So are the Tories officially a far right party now then? It definitely seems like it. And this is really dangerous. I mean itās dangerous if they get in for obvious reasons but even when theyāre not in power, itās still moving the Overton window (that Corbyn really helped to move left) further to the right.
Giving Labour absolutely no excuse to move further left than they currently are. Which they definitely need to do in my opinion.
The Tories look to have become Reform UK and Labour are somewhere around Cameron style conservatism.
What do you guys think? Am I wrong? Is there anything that might make me a little more optimistic about the future? Anything positive that might come out of this? Cos I canāt see it currently.
I wonder what the Lib Demās are doing these days. I really havenāt paid attention to them since the coalition (although did tactically vote for them this past election).
But I havenāt had any strong left wing vibes off them like I used to get. Vibes lol. Sound like a moron but ye know what I meaaaaaan. The Greens for instance I also donāt pay attention to, yet I know from āvibesā in reality probably various news, that they are decently far left.
But then Iāve liked the greens forever really. Itās just they donāt stand a chance of winning. But I do wonder how many other people are like me? I suspect any previous Corbyn supporters are.
Itās like maybe if we all actually voted for who we really wanted then it might actually get them elected.
Labour really need to take this opportunity to change to PR. But you know they wonāt. I mean French style PR anyway. To hopefully keep out the likes of Retarded UK and their cult members.
But yeah, what say yaāll, as the yanks say?
To me it feels like lib dems went more left than labour and labour are now centrist
Itās probably easiest to ignore what lib Dems say because theyāre donāt have to put out a coherent policy platform, because no one expects them to be in power.
Instead look at the seats they want to win. Their plan has always been to mop up Tory votes in places that canāt bring themselves to vote labour.
It puts them firmly in the middle between the torries and labour. Itās also why e.g. they played down rejoining the EU at the last election. It might be their official stance, but it doesnāt play well in the rural Tory seats theyāre targeting.
Really? Lib Demās back in clegg days when I voted for them were always more left than Labour. But I felt like theyād moved further right in more recent years. I suppose the most left thing they did was the calling for another referendum. Probably I need to actually look into them a bit more though cos my info is very out dated Nd you and this guy are basically saying opposite things lol.
I donāt think the Tories were centre though. They were always right wing. Itās a case of who you compare them to. But America are just an anomaly IMO. And theyāre one country. If we compare to Europe, then Tories have always been right wing. But certainly further right in recent years and now apparently far right.
Labour, I would say are centre. Greens left. Lib Demās who the fuck knows. I thought probably centre but I dunno shit, jackkk.
Itās more a statement on how much labour are leaning right than it is about the lib Dems to be honest.
Yeah, Tories were never centre, but they were closer to that than in recent years where theyāve been steadily cruising over to the far right.
The Lib Dems described themselves as centre (or filling that space), but I canāt find the article right now. Iād also say more centre-left.
And yet they went into coalition with the Tories.