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    3 hours ago

    I find this dilemma fails to actually deliver the point.

    If you do not act you are not absolved of morality because you had a choice. You made a choice and your morals were tested.

    Also saving greater numbers over lesser does not make you a murderer. It makes you a hero.

    There is no moral dilemma, you couldn’t have saved all of them. The murdered is the person who tied them up with the intent to kill.

    • Kant would disagree.

      Many philosophers (many of whom are Kant’s contemporaries,) think Emmanuel Kant can be a dick sometimes.

      But Kant would argue by pulling the lever and getting involved, you are taking responsibility, but ultimatly the guy(s) who secured the victims to the tracks are to blame. And your lawyer will argue this in both criminal and civil court.

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        3 hours ago

        I think you misunderstood. It’s the scenario that’s flawed not what happens when you pull the lever.

        Whoever set up the contraption has responsibility.

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    7 hours ago

    yes that is indeed the moral dilemma of the trolley problem

    i’ve seen people claim that the decision is easy - but the comfort of this being a simple thought experiment softens the fact you are pulling the lever that’s going to kill that one person. If you don’t, sure 5 people die - but you can absolve yourself of guilt easier than if you pulled the lever and, in a way, caused that one death

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    10 hours ago

    I happily live with myself. The death is on the hands of whomever tied those people to the tracks.

    Yes, I pulled the lever and by so chose who lived and who died, but if I was that person alone on the tracks I wouldn’t blame the one pulling the lever, I believe it was the lesser of two evil. I would still be fucking pissed, but at the one who tied me there, not the person forced to choose.