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    Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are all friends of Hasanabi. I think they’re all Leftist. Frogan is a muslim woman and said she hopes that American soldiers get PTSD for helping Israel (based). Vio is comedy twitch stream, but I think with Leftist sympathy. Vio also lives with / is dating Central_Committee (Mike_From_PA on twitter), which is the second largest self-proclaimed socialist news channel on twitch. Denims is a woman on twitch who talks about some Leftism stuff. Capri aka CapriSunnPapi is Palestinian/Lebanese man. Frogan and Capri both have family who live in Lebanon. I think these are actually cool people, not vaushite people.

    here’s a video where Frogan and Capri talk about their family in Lebanon. They talk about their families being bombed by Israel.
    https://youtu.be/zrnc6j6zNy4?t=1501

    The bans were probably lead by Ethan Klein and Destiny’s community.

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      Ethan and Destiny are taking credit for the bans and gloating on their shows, in reality the ADL claimed they spoke directly with Twitch staff which was followed by the bans

      This shit is so obviously racist, straight up targeted harassment of Arab and pro-Palestine streamers by zionists and their right-wing allies

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          And to be more specific, it could be based on an insinuation that the hummus brand name was code for “Israeli-borne Jew” that I saw ethan saying it’s a thing based on comments on the D psychos.

          Which is of course 100% not real but who gives a shit right.

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            Do you want to know something funny? The term Sabra comes from the name of the prickly pear cactus plant in Hebrew and the settlers assumed the cactus was a native plant to the territory. So they thought a plant represented them that they assumed was native to the land, but actually was not at all native to the land.

            Since the early days of Jewish immigration to then-Mandate Palestine, Israelis have called the ideal Israeli, who is born in the country, a sabra: tough on the outside like the thorny fruit, soft on the inside like its sweet flesh, and native to the soil like the plant. (Although like many Israelis, sabra is actually an immigrant, having arrived from the Americas via Spain several centuries ago.)

            https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-does-sabra-mean

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        Ethan can go fuck himself. Typical Zionist Jewish supremacists piece of shit. The only issue ever is anti semitism for him. He doesn’t give a shit about anything else. He’s so obsessed he has to create a problem when ther isnt one. When you’re on the same side as destiny you’ve completely lost the plot. Fucking assholes like these just making everything worse makes me such a pro doomer and the way things are going with the environment I guess I have something to be happy about.

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      i mean yes in the end it’s all streamer drama (to all those that will be like “who are these people ?” to sound cool)

      but at the core but it does demonstrate the outsized influence that can be deployed against even the mildly leftist pipeline types. there is precious little in this space for younger people that isn’t chud, chud-adjacent, straight fascist, or fascist adjacent zionazi.

      it does show how quickly and throughly the entire tiny ecosystem of leftist creators could be absolutely shut down if there was a cross platform coordinated ban. imagine just every leftist instantly having all their socials closed, banned from every platform, utterly silenced and how little anyone would be able to do about it.

      because it’s coming

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        I would add that despite these people being streamers, their communities also do some activism in real life, like participating in the antiwar student encampment protests and other protests in support of Palestinians.

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          oh yeah. they are a million times better then other political streamers for this reason alone. most do walk the walk or at least raise money for causes that actually help people

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      Or the ADL: https://x.com/ADL/status/1848501823100932346

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      Well you see Sabra could also mean “israeli-born person” so it’s actually super antisemitic to talk about the shitty grainy hummus.

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        The term alludes to a tenacious, thorny desert plant, known in English as prickly pear, with a thick skin that conceals a sweet, softer interior. The cactus is compared to Israeli Jews, who are supposedly tough on the outside, but delicate and sweet on the inside.

        which ya know, additionally silly when you consider the plant is from the Americas, and was widely used in colonial states as a living fence

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          “Sweet and delicate inside” is a hell of a way to describe “full of rancid shit and bloody entrails” tbh, they’re so full of themselves lol…

          What part is the “sweetness” again? It’s certainly not given to the indigenous Arabs- so who is it for? Non-Arabs, like the Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country (racist racial purity bullshit from the sounds of it)? To their fellow Jews, like the Ethiopian Jews they have forcefully sterilized, the Yemeni and other MENA Jews they discriminate against, or all those Jewish people who reject their settler-colonialism- or even those fellow Zionists who simply have concerns or get in the way (that Hannibal protocol lol)?

          What sweetness exactly are we talking about lol… they may as well have called the Nazis sweet, their attitude in some ways even is more repulsive than that.

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    banned for a sanctioned event at Twitch’s own convention is a fucking insane thing to do to them. these myopic zionist pieces of shit aren’t content with violently starving Palestinians and Lebanese people in those countries, so apparently they have to try to starve the vocal ones that live in amerikkka too. interesting that they didn’t ban the actual Jewish person that was part of the same event, whose idea it was, seemingly. they also put one of the Arab people that got banned (denims) at the bottom of the “loves sabra” tier, how does that stack with “Sabra = Jew” calculus that the ADL is pushing?

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    Ethan KKKlein of Heinrich3Himler3 and the ADL teamed up for this one, honestly we’re lucky hasan isnt getting it too because Ethan is leveraging his huge platform against him

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    zionist einsatzgruppen openly exterminating people in Gaza right now, and these are the “rules” the west is enforcing. not international law, just Calvinball and the ADL calls the shots.

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      I am so sick of this weaselly bullshit where Zionists pretend that they’re poor discriminated victims and get people silenced for “antisemitism.” Using the banner of anti-racism to facilitate actual genocide.

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    Twitch once again proving the whole point of their site is to create the most racist community online. They only banned Israel because having them in the site is like doping.

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      Two weeks out from the election it would be a terrible strategy to intentionally deplatform the largest leftist pipeline on the internet, especially considering the potential to radicalize scores of disillusioned liberals

      If would also give Ethan and destiny exactly what they want, which is to silence all pro-Palestinian voices

      Hasan’s strategy of largely ignoring Ethan and using the drama as launching pad to educate on the crimes of Israeli apartheid is driving Klein up the wall, the man is spiraling

      Replacing that with an online hunger strike just isn’t efficient or likely to be effective in any way

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        Two weeks out from the election

        I’m starting to realize how much money and viewership Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are about to lose out on from their month-long bans

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        I never said anything about Hasan going dark. I said not streaming on Twitch. He can stream in TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube.

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          Hasan won’t be getting 70k-200k views on election day streaming on TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube

          Twitch is his platform, you can’t just transfer an entire audience to other platforms overnight, it takes years to build up, having the platform is simply more important than making a well-meaning moral gesture that’ll be forgotten in a month

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            Why exactly is covering electoralism more important than solidarity with pro-Palestinian voices being silenced by Twitch over racist lies?

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              You’re just projecting that these people, who he actually knows and talks to, want him to go offline, and that he’s refusing them.

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                Listen, just say you want your slop. I’m sure they want to be unbanned, too. Should anyone try to do anything about that, or should we just do whatever allows you to tune into Hasan on Twitch still?

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              Because educating and agitproping a shit ton of disillusioned liberals on Palestine who are tuning in for the election is more important than online brownie points

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          nah, he should simply stream Bisan’s documentary and any other available Gazan-filmed footage 24/7 without physically being online or saying a word

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      Obviously your post is in bad faith and honestly disgusting. You see a post where people are being silenced for supporting Palestine and you are trying to shift the blame to someone you don’t like a personal level. You saw pro-palestinian and pro-lebanese voices getting silenced, 2 of these people have family being bombed, and you try to make this into an opportunity to stir up drama. You are gross.

      All of the people who were banned are friends of Hasan and have direct communication with Hasan. None of the people who are banned would want Hasan to stop streaming. They like that he reports Israel’s crimes to thousands or millions of people. It is very likely that Hasan is talking to them right now to try to help them out and possibly also talking with twitch to try to get rid of the bans.

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        Hasan is a huge fucking money maker for Twitch. Maybe their biggest. I’m not shifting blame to Hasan. These accusations are bullshit, and Hasan should go on strike and make it hurt for Twitch. No one else on the platform is running 30+ minutes of ads a day to 40K+ viewers and bringing in $35K+ a month in subs. If he didn’t have that sort of power and impact on their operations, then they would have banned him for 30 days, too. Do you think the ADL didn’t ask for it?

        EDIT: And he’s about to enter his biggest money making period for twitch with the electio

        EDIT: By the way, @dead@hexbear.net, since I forgot initially, go fuck yourself for me “bad faith”. You care more about your slop watching Hasan than doing literally anything to actually stand up against Twitch and these fucking racist zionists. Calling me bad faith when when you are about to give Twitch $7.99 or watch their ads as a reward for banning Pro Palestine voices. Nothing is stopping Hasan from going to YouTube or Instagram or TikTok, plenty of other streamers already stream there.

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          This isn’t how strikes work lol. One streamer withholding labor doesn’t have leverage in this way. Twitch would either ignore it or just punish him. All this would do is silence the biggest pro-Palestinian voice on Twitch.

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            There’s about to be only one pro-Palestine streamer on twitch at this rate. How long will that last?

            Hasan isn’t some normal streamer. The revenue he brings in for that company probably covers a couple staff’s monthly salaries. He alone makes ~$250K/month, and because he hits the $100K threshold in a couple weeks, that means twitch is also making $250K/month off of him.

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            I just cancelled my Turbo subscription over it and I selected other and told them that if they are going to treat Arabs and Muslims in a racist and unfair manner, then I don’t want to give Twitch my money. I’m not a streamer but that’s the most I can do right now. I’m leaning toward a 30 day boycott as well.

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      He could at least cover all of Frogan + co’s Twitch salaries for the month they are banned similar to a strike fund. (edit) It is his podcast cohost from leftovers who is running this smear campaign so he does have some responsibility here especially since he made money from leftovers working with Ethan.

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        I’m (delusionally) hoping that he’s trying to catch KKKlein in something that is provably slanderous so he can sue him, but I’m not holding my breath. At least 3 of the people banned have a Patreon for their podcast. I’m gonna sub in the morning since I cancelled my Turbo subscription. I don’t know if Denims has like a Patreon or something.

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          Well hopefully even if he doesn’t do anything, people get together support them while they are banned, it’s really just the Palestine version of the red scare, they are only being disciplined for being pro Palestinian, I don’t think the higher ups at twitch are dumb enough to think they are actually antisemitic or whatever they are being accused of.

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      It’s great to know that support for standing up Pro-Palestinian voices goes about as deep as the extent to which it doesn’t personally interfere with slop consumption. Hasan could stream on multiple other platforms, y’all just have prersonal loyalty to a company that banned Arab streamers over bullshit charges, instead.