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    18 hours ago

    Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

    Yeah, it sucks that progress is so slow, and yeah, it sucks that some things have gone backwards. But there has been a huge amount of progress in the past however-many years. We went from “don’t ask, don’t tell” to having a Catholic president openly support gay marriage in a relatively short time.

    Using Harris’ Glock anecdote as evidence the party is moving to the right is just lazy editorializing IMHO. Almost as lazy as just asserting that the party is moving to the left because of the issues that you decided illustrate the left-right difference…

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      17 hours ago

      Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

      You forgot that the black woman is also the sitting vice president.

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      18 hours ago

      Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.

      Oh do lgbt people have more rights now? Oh fuck, I’ll let my trans refugee friends know.

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        The fact that your trans refugee friends continue to suffer is deplorable, but does not mean lgbt don’t have more rights now. You’re employing the same fallacy that anti-vaxxers use when they say it’s pointless to get a vaccine when it doesn’t 100% guarantee protection from the illness. Things are better for some people and still desperately need to improve for many others.

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          The fact that your trans refugee friends continue to suffer is deplorable, but does not mean lgbt don’t have more rights now.

          Trans people are experiencing low key genocide but we also have more rights now?

          Things are better for some people and still desperately need to improve for many others.

          Things are desperately worse for some people and have improved slightly for others.

          Genocide of trans people > gay marriage on the impact on the queer community

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          How does the early Roberts court being oddly chill about gay stuff represent the dems doing anything about anything nationally? The rights have not been driven by the DNC, they’ve been driven by culture (largely Queer Eye and Modern Family, which is why every two bit Disney+ writer thinks they’re MLK these days), the court, which was mostly republican appointees, and a deep neo liberalism combined with gay male couples on average being the highest earning couples. I will remind you, Obama ran against gay marriage in the 2008 primary, part of why I voted for?.. I think… Chris fucking Dodd or something? [Cringe] I’m in a state where your vote doesn’t matter because it’s too late, so I don’t even remember. Obama had it sewn up failing the superdelegate revolt Schumer already Littlefingered Hillary on in the end anyway. But at any rate, I literally voted against Obama in the primary for being anti-gay in 2008, he shifted because the culture shifted.

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    18 hours ago

    The Dems have moved so far to the right that what used to be the far-right (Bush/Cheney) now supports them

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    21 hours ago

    It may well turn out that humanity chases itself towards more and more hate and scapegoating as they make the world they live in less liveable.

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    18 hours ago

    Oh look, more vote-third-party slop pushed right before an election. What a coincidence!

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      the democrats have received endorsements from dick fucking cheney and ex-reagan staffers. they have campaigned on building the border wall more efficiently, shutting down asylum and hiring more border guards. in the debate she promised the American military will be the most lethal fighting force in the world. democrats USED to campaign on medicare for all, a path to citizenship, ending forever wars, etc. the rightward shift of the party is abundantly clear to anyone not just playing team sports. you need to come to terms with the fact that your party has been assimilated by neoconservatives and push back on it, or it’s only going to continue.

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    This is kind of a shit take. Yes, the Democrats are, but we are approaching a whole new part of the spectrum on the other side.

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      Sure, the bad guys are getting worse, but does that excuse the good guys getting less good? The article wasn’t particularly original, and certainly didn’t serve enlightenment, but it did make me ever so slightly less cheerful about Harris. Now might not be the time to complain about details like this, but — if those concerns are founded — the details are still worth remembering.

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        The “good guys” were never good. This is the party of slavers, Dixiecrats, Jim Crow, colonialism, settler-colonial genocide, multiple coups and wars, and material supporters of basically every racist cop there has ever been. Oh, and right now, they are doing a genocide. They also were under Obama but nobody cared because Yemen gets little press in chauvinist media. They’ve been making rightward shifts in most policies since Clinton.

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          This is what the democrats have always been, just now they stopped pretending to care about people abroad or the issues that matter to the voters (and not the donors) and surprisingly that’s still good enough for the blue no matter who crowd.