Think I gave my last fuck with this election cycle. If that many people can vote for a person like Trump, what hope is left? It’s not even that a Republican won. Why the fuck Trump? Dude’s got more charges and convictions than most anyone in the US and he was elected to the most powerful position in the US?
Why do we even have prisons? Apparently no one cares when people break the law.
Just yesterday, I went to a lecture about “tipping points” and if there is one thing that stuck from it, it is that at some point it no longer is possible to revert, and it can no longer get better (or worse depending on pov) once the unstable system has settled into one of the stable conditions
Fuck reverting. Dismantle it and build one better
What are you trying to accomplish by saying this? Do you want people to give up? Hope does not stop people from making things better. If anything, it gives you the strength to carry on. It’s not too late. Trump simply doesn’t have the backing to do anything to the Constitution if he wanted to - there’s not enough red in house or senate to propose an amendment (it takes 2/3,) and not even half of the states have a red enough legislature to ratify it unless it’s actually reasonable (it takes 3/4.) So he can do some damage, yes, but we are not at the tipping point. Democracy isn’t going anywhere.
Woah dude! How did you turn this into american politics? The world is a big place. Not everyone cares about what is going on there. There are many unstable systems that statistics try to explain and understand.
Yes, but the election of a fascist to the highest public office in one of the world superpowers is a global event that literally JUST happened, which is why this community has seen a massive increase in activity.
The community is explicitly about having hope. Showing up in the comments to explain why you think “actually sometimes things are just permanently fucked” when a huge population is desperately trying to maintain hope is pretty discompationate whether you think this affects you or not, and to be perfectly frank it probably does. The election of Hitler was not just a German issue. The election of Mussolini was not just an Italian issue.
The whole point about this space is to maintain hope. Don’t show up and tell people “actually it might just be hopeless” and then act surprised when someone whose country just elected a fascist and is hurting and afraid, doesn’t appreciate your comment.
*Edited for clarity
Many things just happened worldwide. Why assume that everyone is this preoccupied with the American election? That said, I did not notice what community this was on. It just popped up on my feed, and the realist in me felt that i had to add this comment. It is not about politics, hope or anything in particular. The lecture that I mention was about the climate, and in particular about the AMOC current in the atlantic ocean. It is an unstable system in itself, that affects a wide range of other unstable systems such as:
The Greenland Ice Sheet
West Antarctic Ice Sheet
The Amazon Rainforest
The Boreal PermafrostNone of it was about the american politics and the recent ellection. I wouldn’t even call that an unstable system to be fair!
I found it relevant, as the definition of tipping points is, that you can’t always revert from the point past the tipping point.
All of which is fair, except that because of the community you are in and present global events, it is 1000% reasonable for that to be the way someone interpreted your comment.
I can appreciate your knowledgable contribution to the discussion. And at the same time, it was not at all unreasonable for someone to understand you to be talking about the major event that just happened for a huge population, and that will likely affect the entire planet, particularly with respect to climate.
I don’t expect it feels relevant to everyone what just happened in our election. But it does have the potential to be a major global historical event, over which a lot of people are presently hurting, and this community is very explicitly about hope, a thing that is hard to come by for many right now, even if you are not one of them.
You’re still turning it into an American issue. The world sure is concerned about the ellection but at the same time, at least from where i am, people are not too concerned. They are prepared and wong fall for the same junk that they did last time. That imo is a sign of hope for at lest the rest of us.
Again, all of that makes sense, but you seem surprised that Americans would relate to the world through the lens of being in America, and I gotta tell you, that’s perfectly normal.
It’s not surprising that people who chose to go to the hope-posting community are talking about and thinking about the big thing that made tons of people feel hopeless.
You’re damn right I see it as an American issue, LOOK WHERE WHAT COMMUNITY YOURE IN. WHO DO YOU THINK IT IS THAT FEELS HOPELESS RIGHT NOW??? 😅
We get it. You’re not an American. The people you’re interacting with are, which would have been pretty intuitive if you noticed what comm you’re in given what’s happening here, and it’s not anyone else’s failing that you didn’t realize where you’re at, or the context of the interaction. Have some empathy is all I’m saying.
Regardless, hope you have a good one. Take care.
Does it get better? I haven’t lived through a time like that. In my 29 years it’s only gotten worse and worse. The rate of acceleration has changed but the direction has not.
Also, did you all miss the part about like no more re-elections?
This country is hella fucked and it’s going to take most of the world with it.
I came to say this. Before the millenium I might have thought this but we are like almost one quarter of the way in with at best brief respites.
I feel like this community is about telling each other lies, just to feel better.
“This too shall pass” is always capable of cutting both ways.
Ah, kidney stones!
I love bunny.
bump
i hope others can at least try to stop focusing on bad news with this
