• ZeffSyde@lemmy.world
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    Honest question: how bad do things have to get in the US for citizens to qualify for refugee status?

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      Consider how bad things are in Central America right now and then remember that despite the abject violence currently happening in many countries there right now, the U.S. still harbors deep anti-immigrant sentiments and we regularly turn away people fleeing said violence and return them to the custody of their would-be killers.

      Yeah, you won’t need an answer to this question when the times comes for us. You’ll know, and you’ll be willing to get on that boat or airplane leaving for anywhere else even if they aren’t accepting refugees or the odds are slim that anywhere else will take you, because the alternative is certain death.

      You’re probably better off trying to emigrate now rather than waiting for things to get worse, if you are in a position where you can make that choice. Some people make their livings preying upon those who are desperately seeking an escape, so it’s a bargain right now to leave for the cost of a plane ticket and whatever elbow grease you need to put in to achieve citizenship abroad.

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        My grandparents were holocaust survivors and what you just said is all I’ve been thinking about the last couple weeks, few months really. I keep imagining I went back in time to Berlin 1932 and have a chat with the family. They’re gone now but I’m 100% convinced they would tell me to fucking run. I’ve got the opportunity and means right now the get the fuck out while the getting is good. It’s something I’ve wanted to do for a while now anyway. People migrate all the time with nothing but the shirt on their backs, and I can do significantly better. Worst case, I come back in a few years with some more international experience. Best case…well…best case is still a pretty bad scenario, because it means I made the right decision, which means…bad stuff…

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          It’s a scale thing.

          one house on fire, it’s ok.

          one house being raided, it’s ok.

          five houses being raided and four houses on fire, time to gtfo.

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              You obviously don’t know white people.

              When I was buying my house, I came for a tour of the home, as you do when purchasing a home.

              Within three minutes of us showing up, walking in with the realtor, the police were outside the house. Not one car though. Three cars, the house was surrounded.

              On top of that, it’s clear that we were looking to buy the house because of the big for sale sign in the front. And even clearer the fact that it was me, my wife, our three-year-old son, my brother-in-law, my father-in-law, my mother-in-law, and the realtor.

              Evidently the next door neighbor decided to call the police when they saw us because they thought we were robbing the place.

              Who the fuck robs an empty house with six adults and a baby?

              Let’s just say, I wasn’t surprised when they put up Trump signs.

              Rich white people are afraid of anything outside of their “control”.

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                Rich white people are afraid of anything outside of their “control”.

                I grew up in Santa Fe, NM working as a handyman in Hyde Park and El Dorado and Trés Lagunas and all the “non-native” rich, white areas. After my divorce, i ended up in Cali as a stagehand working for Disney. This statement literally sums up my entire life’s professional experience.